Too bad my usb stick can only store one distro at a time.
Got my parents a new computer for Christmas. I didn’t feel like acting as their 24/7 tech support so I let it with the Windows 11 that it came with. Yesterday they couldn’t get their webcam and microphone to work at all for our weekly family videocall. We ended up having the videocall on Signal. I believe they would face less troubles with Debian at this point.
Tough love is the realest love
Dude: “Damn… I really want to be able to see the inside of my computer. Why won’t anyone help me install windows to the case?”
I’m just going to start pretending I know nothing about computers
A computer? Ahh yes, a person performing mathematical calculations! Likewise. (-)/
I just pretend I can’t speak English.
They’re square and beepy,
covered with buttons and screens.
It is so easy.
Or so it seems.“Sorry I got rid of windows 10 years ago. I can help you install win 7 but nothing newer than that”
Please at least (or, well, at most) make it 8.1…
the only ones i know how to install are vista and 8. sorry
Sorry I’m not tech savvy
“Don’t you work in IT?”
Umm… I’m bad at my job
That’s a good idea as that’s how you avoid being tech support for family
Installing Linux on your buttplug is a bold move, I say.
Hey if you don’t know how to do it just say so
I’m shy. ┐('～`;)┌
I always install openSUSE without removing my buttplug. Or any extra USB cables.
Uhm… Where can I find that? For a friend, of course! (◕ᴗ◕✿)
Well, I only know of one and you’ll need 12 angry men to pull it out.
Oh yeah I have that too. Just sit on the PC case while you are installing. ( ￣▽￣)
Idk i think if it was my usb stick it would fry it
I dare you to use it for bios updates. Better don’t clensh your butt or you’ll brick your board
Two bricks would be made in that case. >!In that PC case.!<
Solution: install windows for them, but complain and evangelize at every opportunity. You’ll be so insufferable they’ll never ask you again.
I don’t need friends that are Windows users.
I don’t care what they use, be it linux, a BSD, OSX, Plan9… but windows?? that is pathetic!!
Or don’t
Use whatever you want to use. You can always say no to support requests.
I charge a consulting fee. If you have to ask, you can’t afford it.
I do that every time I have to use windows. But I think my boss does not like that…
Another solution - install Windows 2000, which was the first and the last good Windows distro.
Another solution: install a Linux distro in kiosk mode and make the browser home page https://www.windows93.net/
lolll
Constable Odo treatment.
Thanks for reminding me that the DS9 box set is a high priority on my ripping list
If you’re incapable of figuring out how to install Windows then you’re probably incapable of most things in life.
To be fair, Windows wasn’t meant to be installed by the end user that often. It comes preinstalled.
Just saying that it’s brain dead easy to install. You don’t need any technical skill at all.
There are no tricks. Just mouse through a couple of prompts and it’s done.
I’ve installed Linux just as many times as windows and these days Linux is more complicated to set up and install than windows.
Like I get it. Yall have a deep bias for Linux but Jesus Christ can you at least be accurate?
I find you still have to fuss with partitions. There isn’t a simple wipe everything and install option. You have to manually select the partitions on the disk, delete them and create a new one which somehow triggers it to create several partitions.
There is an upgrade option.
And then they tell you they don’t want a Microsoft account and you have to look up what’s the current hack to get around that if possible.
You had it right until the “create a new one” bit.
You can choose empty space instead of a partition and the setup will create the partitions for you. I mean even if you were to choose a partition, I believe it’ll delete it and create new ones because it needs more than just one partition. So on a clean disk, you can pretty much just hit next at that bit.
Lolwat. Last time I installed windows it literally created 3 partitions exactly when I told it “this clean disk - here ya go”
That’s exactly what I said, it creates its own partitions if you make free space or already have a clean disk. No need to manually make a partition.
Aand why the hell does it do that? And why the hell count is more than one? And while we are at it, what is so deadly and frightening with Linux installer creating a partition?
It was just as easy to install linux, it came with a graphical installer
Jesus Christ can you at least be accurate?
Speaking of accuracy, your comment seems to identify the wrong issue. Navigating the install menus in a non-Arch linux distro is pretty much analogous to Windows. The biggest difference is that Linux distros don’t have 3-4 pages where they sneakily try to include privacy-breaching clauses during the installation.
The real issue is starting the installation in the first place. Windows is easy, because hardware manufacturer’s have en masse bent over to willingly present themselves to Microsoft, Linux doesn’t have this advantage and users must figure out how to get around the 7,000 different Secure Boot UEFI configurations before they can even start the installation process.
You are vastly overestimating the technical ability of the average computer user. I don’t even mean that in an elitist/disparaging way, they just don’t care about this stuff because they don’t need to.
Most people would rather go to the store and get a new computer, than go to a webpage and download an iso. They can figure it out. They are just lazy and have little motivation to try it. They also want what they already know, with as little change as possible.
I think without instructions most people would need help due to not knowing what a partition is. So depending on your interpretation of incapable this seems like a huge exaggeration. The Linux installers with GUIs I’ve seen at least explained how to set them up.
I am not incapable, I just don’t want to.
Windows isn’t hard to install but it does require some computer knowledge
Me with 40$ 1tb external ssd with ventoy be like
I can’t fit an SSD up my ass. :(
Not with that attitude
Its one of the many trials set by SPACE KING
Don’t threaten me with a good time
I tried that too, it wouldn’t reliably boot on things it should have. I remade it on a mechanical drive, same settings, and that one will boot on anything I’ve thrown it on so far.
Your father gave me his USB stick in Vietnam, son.
where did you keep it?
I carried this uncomfortable hunk of data up my ass for two years. And now little man, I give it to you.
Is it mandatory to have in your ass or can you just put it in your pocket?
What’s the difference?
It will become obvious once youve used linux for long enough
Prison pocket.
It’s mandatory.
Just install Linux Mint, they’ll never find out.
Don’t actually do this as it is problematic. You should respect there wishes instead of trying to force Linux apron them. They don’t really need to know that Linux exists at all.
The other issue is that you instantly become the sole source of tech support.
I’ve done it to my family and friends over a decade ago.
Free tech support is for foss!
Yeah we are very different. I do IT for a living so I’m not exactly excited to do tech support outside of work.
If it works for everyone i involved that’s great but the problem with Linux is that there are far fewer people who use it which means that suddenly I’m the central point of support. I want something totally hands off for me which means something friends and family know and can help with.
Since I’ve installed openSUSE Tumbleweed to everyone about 5 years ago I’ve actually done literally 0 tech support on that front so I’m superbly happy about that.
With Windows (albeit 7) there was always shit going wrong (not to mention XP before that which I basically regularly reinstalled). With various distros (Ubuntu & Debian mostly, but others too) there were frequent fuckeries of various flavours when upgrading.
I’m not totally against Linux. I just think that people here are so evangelical about Linux that they start installing it everywhere even when it isn’t a great fit. People don’t like change and installing Linux on there machine is a great way to piss people off.
Honestly I think iPads are the best for those who want a simple experience. The alternative to that is Android tablets.
People don’t say “install Windows”, they just want their PC to work. And if that PC isn’t for Adobe or kernel-level intrusive anti-cheat money-sucking games, there is no difference (except the spying).
Also the amount of maintenance with Windows after each update isn’t small (software like Shut Up Windows helps with regedits tho).
And most people don’t know what their OS even is.
But no, I’m not giving an iPad to people that want Windows :P.
I’ve worked in IT my whole career and if someone wants me yo install Linux on their machine, or has questions about bash scripting, I’m dropping whatever I’m doing to help them.
How else are my friends and family supposed to teach each other it nobody teaches them? Not everyone was as lucky as I was to be encouraged to pursue tech, that doesn’t mean they don’t deserve the same privacy and options that I benefit from.
I’m down helping once and I often will point people in the right direction
The problem is that help isn’t needed once. It can turn into a full time job very quickly if you don’t draw the line.
or something with plasma
As a fresh convert not having my .exes work would be sus. But with MS locking more and more stuff in their app store, we’re not too far from a full-on windows troll distro.
Should mostly work through WINE and Proton?
It will obviously look different, but with binfmt, wine, and a sane initial setup, you could get a lot of .exe works from a click in the UI (or the CLI, after all, CLI apps exists on windows too).
I wouldn’t provide tech support unless you have a very good reason. You also want Windows as that’s what everyone knows. Stick to the beaten path when you can unless you have a very good reason to stray.
