hey nerds, I’m getting myself a new personal laptop as a treat, but I very much do not want windows 11 shitting it up. Is there a linux distro with caveman-compatible instructions for installation and use? I want to think about my OS as little as possible while actually using it.
I’ve got one friend who uses mint, but I’ve also seen memes dunking on it so who knows. I actually really only know what I’ve seen from you all shitposting in other communities
Debian is one of my favorites and one of the easiest to use if you are new. i haven’t tried mint but they are very similar.
TBH Ubuntu, or if you have an older/lower spec machine xubuntu
Linux mint (Cinnamon is my fav). You can never go wrong.
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mint
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generally a solid choice
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you have a friend who uses it! big advantage
people who make memes about linux distros are in a lot deeper than you want to be. they have different goals.
True for the friend benefit. Fun and useful to occasionally chat about it with someone who knows what’s up.
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I usually recommend Zorin OS to noobs, but personally I prefer arch based
I’ve been using Mint and Pop!_OS on two different machines for a few years.
Neither has really required much from me as the user, although I have needed to use the terminal once on each of them.
Personally, I really like the way Pop does window tiling and workspaces.
It’s hilarious how uncool it is to suggest Ubuntu but it often just works, including very recent hardware if it’s from Canonical partners like Lenovo or Dell. And the kerfuffle about things like snaps are way overblown.
Especially because it’s to a newbie, who stands to benefit the most from using an OS with more user share and more available online resources.
More specifically Ubuntu LTS, since interim releases are now expectedly beta quality and require upgrades a few months after release. Ubuntu LTS, enable unattended upgrades, register and activate Ubuntu Pro for them and you won’t have to touch it for the lifetime of the hardware.
Fedora tends to “just work” too. Some manufacturers that support Ubuntu also support Fedora for customers that need a “RedHat-ish” distro instead of a “Debian-ish” one.
I came here to say this as well. Ubuntu “just works”™ and was my entry into linux 15+ years ago.
Ubuntu was my entry to linux as well, 19 years ago. But Ubuntu of today is not the Ubuntu of 15-19 years ago, not in a good way.
you’re right, but the issues with ubuntu crop up later, when you have to update or after you install enough incompatible stuff that it breaks your system. which is a shame bc ubuntu is the most user friendly distro there is imo
is it user friendly if it’s so prone to breakage?
Is it though? I’ve found it rock solid for years on end - been using it for 14 years, and Debian before that.
i mean idk, i was just asking about what that other poster was saying. i fuckin’ hate ubuntu for other reasons and i generally don’t speak on it in the negative or positive in threads like this. i only chimed in because what was being said struck me as odd. “it’s the most user friendly distro there is, it just breaks a lot”
it made me wonder what user friendly meant to this other user. i wanted to hear their perspective because i thought i could learn something, especially as i help my mom, an inexperienced linux user, use linux on an old laptop for the first time
I don’t recognize this myself. I’ve never had trouble with incompatibilities or degradation etc.,
Especially these days my OS can remain very vanilla, as many complex things can be containerized. E.g. I run syncthing and an nfs server and sometimes torrenting over vpn, through docker-compose; I’d never install all that on the host with all the extensive dependencies. Same with some heavyweight apps like darktable - spin them up from Flatpak.
Ubuntu does it very well with minimal fuss. I see little to dislike.
my last personal anectode with ubuntu is this: my company decided to setup our office as a remote-onsite hybrid workplace, so our working machines were moved to a rack elsewhere to be accessed remotely and the local machines were supposed to act as basically dumb terminals that can be used interchangeably by us
we develop on rhel, but since the local machines are just to access our dev machines remotely, support decided to install ubuntu because it “just works”. turns out, since ubuntu does a lot of stuff its own way for no good reason, it broke under our network configuration (it’s complicated) and no snap application could run – so, no slack or firefox. not a great scenario for a workplace. in the end we decided to replace ubuntu by rhel and no longer had any issues
you’re right that ubuntu might work flawlessly for you and that it might never break. but, it also might break in unexpected ways. i cannot reliably recommend ubuntu to a beginner because this risk might forever put someone off of linux
Pop OS has been pretty pain free for me
PopOS or Mint are probably the best for new users.
Mint was my beginner distro and is what I recommend. In my experience I was able to find a solution for most of my beginner problems by searching for a solution for mint.
memes dunking on mint are irrelevant. use what works for you & ignore the noise.
personally, mint lmde, based on debian, might be worth a once over. sounds like the stability aspect might be up your alley.
to those suggesting mint, any particular reasons to choose between Cinnamon, MATE, and Xfce versions?
Cinnamon or Xfce are more similar to Windows’ user interface. Between those two, Xfce is more lightweight than Cinnamon. MATE is more for people who liked GNOME 2 and want that interface over what the current GNOME is.
Cinnamon would probably be the most friendly as a new user, but I personally haven’t used it in years and I’m not familiar with its current state.
I personally use Cinnamon, which has a similar feeling to Win10. Very satisfied with it on my desktop. From what I’ve heard XFCE also feels similar to Windows, but I simply have just used Cinnamon ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I really like Fedora. Swapped to it a few months ago, my first time using Linux, and I’ve since only been using the Linux machine. With the KDE Plasma spin, it really is a near 1:1 UI to Windows.
Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora or one of the offshoots like Mint or Pop.
As long as you don’t go too far into the weeds with Arch, Silverblue or NixOS, You’re probably going to have a pretty decent experience, as long as you don’t dig too far under the hood too early most things that you’re going to want to try are just going to work out of the gate.
What spec of laptop are you thinking of getting?
Still shopping around, so nothing’s set in stone. I’m not much of a hardware guy either, so the best I could tell you is just that I’m looking for something a step or two above ‘bare minimum’ for 2025. An SSD, fair bit of ram, ports for external storage so I can actually boot with another OS, maybe enough guts to run skyrim modded to the gills. Somewhere in that ballpark.
If you’re getting a laptop with a graphics card, make sure you go with something by AMD. Nvidia cards will work fine enough, though for a whole host of different reasons, AMD is generally preferred for Linux.
good insight, thanks
mint is probably where you want to be. if you have performance issues with mint, consider MX Linux, AntiX, and EndeavourOS, in that order.
