Definitely a valid critique of Mondragon in the modern era, its commitment to the 10% ratio has atrophied somewhat. It’s still something that ebbs and flows, for example there is a current push to transfer 35,000 non-member workers in their retail coop into full members (from a total of 50,000 workers). From numbers I’ve seen, 85% of employees are still members, which is pretty good.

That’s awesome! What sorts of lessons have you learned in navigating that transition?

That’s kind of what I was getting at, I think both have their strengths and weaknesses, and I think the discourse should reflect that.

Municipal scale infrastructure to capture waste, treat it, and extract nutrients to be redistributed or sold as fertilizer. This is usually an activity undertaken by and fit into existing municipal waste infrastructure.

Wait until you get into food preservation!

That’s a great point, I didn’t consider the tech tree that leads to bikes also makes cars more likely :/