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This is not intended as “how to grow all your food you ever need at home”.
It merely provides the vegetables.
You still have to get your grains (and therefore the majority of your calories) from somewhere else.
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My home is on a 9k lot. Almost twice the size of this but I can’t fit anything near that. I guess majority of my space is take up by the front lawn and driveway.
“Can’t fit anything because the space is taken up by empty space.”
I mean ripping up a concrete driveway in a suburb isn’t exactly prudent.
Well no, but it still comes across a bit weird to say
Your house is also probably a lot bigger than what’s pictured.
If this is 1/10 of an acre, then TIL one acre is a really big
1 acre ~ 4000 m²
You need approx. 1200 m² to feed a person, so 1 acre was approx. a small-sized family farm back in the day.
Might as well link to the actual source which has a lot of great content.
The Backyard Homestead: Produce all the food you need on just a quarter acre!
Good linking. The book says it’s for a quarter acre, not a tenth. This was on reddit the other day (and it’s credited as such). Exact same wording and everything.
thanks!
That house seems to be ~450 sq ft, that seem right?
Nevermind i misunderstood.
Yes, that house seems to be 500 sq ft
That house is absolutely not to scale
I feel like the beekeeping is wasted effort if you’re going for self-sufficience.
It’d be like including a space for a liquor still. Super neat in concept, enormous effort in practice. Hell I’d be more in favor of the still over the beehives honestly, way more utility.
Don’t forget that wax is super useful in a self-sufficient setup for prolonging the life of leather and wooden items. I’ve even used to protect my bike chain!
If I’m already getting the leather and wood from a neighbor, I reckon I’ll leave the bees to someone else as well! hahah
Where is #4?
The list says there’s not enough space for that item.
Then why even bother putting it on the list? Took me a minute looking for the damn thing before I read the text.
I’m going to assume there were other plot layouts for various sizes, and they kept the categories the same for each diagram.
They put it in to tell you that there isn’t room for growing grain on a suburban plot
1 acre = 43,560 sq ft
43,560 sq ft / 10 = 4356 sq ft
8 ft x 4 ft x 8 = 256 sq ft if you bunch all the beds up together
Honestly it’s entire lot size is slightly larger than an average USA home floorplan, but you’re not gonna have any privacy and you’re not going to feed the people more than once in a blue moon on that amount of homegrown.
And you want to live with BEES in that amount of space? Yeah, have fun.
Haha, check out this guy, afraid of bees.
For those civilized in the ISO metric, 87’ x 50’ would be around 26.1m x 15m = 391.5m²
Gonna need this in freedom units.
That’s approximately 391 square M16A1s, as each is roughly 99cm long
That’s a big 0.1 acre lot.
Eyeballing looks like the house couldn’t be more than 18x30 feet, or ~540 sq ft. Probably less in reality. Tiny home territory. Smaller than most single wide trailer homes. The doors as drawn must be for hobbits. Fun picture just the same. I love the urban homestead explosion and hope it never stops.
Comes out to 4350 sq ft, vs 40,000 for an acre. So, a tiny bit more than 0.1 acres, but not quite 0.11.
An acre is 43560 and a tenth of that is 4356.
Sigh, imperial measurements. I forgot it was 208x208’, I had calculated it at 200x200’.
Seriously, imperial measurements are just awful.
At least they teach Americans how to do proper conversions.
If you don’t fight it and accept that imperial is designed with base 12 and not base 10, everything makes more sense. Measurements across all of imperial are to be cut into 12, 6, 4, 3, or 2.
Sometime base 12 works really nicely, especially outside of a lab, when you want to be able to have as many options for division easily as possible.
Decimals work for me.
Two room and a bathrood house, and shed.Nor garage, or drive way.
Or it’s a 20 x 20 house.
It appears big because it’s well used. Also, the house is small-sized. Might depend on your family circumstances.
I’d swap the chickens for ducks and swap the rabbit enclosures for somewhere to butcher game.
There are loads of fantastic personal benefits to living like this, like having choice of fruit and vegetables that aren’t possible to find in supermarkets, no plastic residues from packaging on your food (and no plastic waste to dispose of), getting exercise, fresh air and vitamin D from working in the garden, less carrying groceries around, less need for refrigeration (many veg goes straight from garden to kitchen), health benefits of contact with soil and seasonal diet just to list the first ones that come to mind. Also if your children have contact with animals (even hair and dust left behind by animals) they are less likely to developed allergies. And you’re also not helping already wealthy shareholders of food corporations to further out-compete working class people in the market.
It’s an absolute winner.
Thanks, I thought the same thing.
Especially the “getting some physical exercise, and reconnecting with the soil” seem interesting upsides to me. We would all need some more of that in today’s time it seems.
That looks like a 1940’s WII landscaping plan. If you really want to invest in homesteading, get out of the 1940’s design.
Invest in a high tunnel instead. The larger the better.
It will out-produce the little raised beds by a factor of 3x to 10x depending on the crop.
At first I thought that you were talking about growing vertically, but you probably meant something like a green house? Beyond extending the growing season, what else do they do to increase yeilds?
Heat is what everyone thinks of, however that’s only part of the equation.
More importantly they maintain higher air moisture level around the leaves close to the saturation point.
This allows the plants to keep their stomatas open longer. This keeps the photosynthetic pathways operating for more time during the day. More time = more carbohydrate = more production.
They are also usually watered by drip irrigation as well. Providing he right amount of water, not too much or too little, greatly increases a plants yield.
A high tunnel is a unheated/cooled greenhouse/nethouse that is popular in every country not stuck in the dark ages with their agriculture. They come in many sizes. For example 100m x 20m ones popular in the middle east and Australia. In southern Spain they built ones that cover 20ha or more. A few in Poland were my favorite. They used split pine rails to build them.
Thanks for the reply. I can see this being a great way to go for a dedicated farm, which this post is proporting to do, but I am not sure I would want a high tunnel in my yard. I am on the wild-yard side of things and have wildflowers planted along one edge of my property, a milkweed garden, etc. I like to be able to see things growing and am not sure how I would feel about the visual block. I guess you could make one with more long-term transparent sides, but that would cost more $$.
As it is, we often have too large of yeilds when our four 4x8 raised beds really get going. Our issue isn’t yeilds, it’s the narrow width of peek yeild along with a combination of what we grow (not shelf stable) and storage systems (the whole pick early, store so it won’t ripen, and ripen on demand system).
Maybe a tunnel could actually help with this?
AFAIK it not just speeds up plant growth, but also extends vegetation period. It means for example that you can plant/harvest from March-October, instead of May-August.
Depending on the location, they can add 3-4 more months of a growing window. So double cropping or staggered plantings for a longer harvest window becomes viable.
I bet it would keep the deer from eating my tomatoes, too
I just put in a garden with 4 8x4 beds. Sounds like I need another 4 beds. This shit is addicting.
Wait until you get into food preservation!
Literally explains that this is insufficient.
Don’t let perfect be the enemy of the good.
Then we should be promoting good instead of unrealistic perfect.
