Actually you still absolutely do, since Microsoft has in the past, and probably still, actively sabotaged the ability to run other operating systems on gener computation devices.
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Back in the 90s, before the DOJ v Microsoft antitrust trial, Microsoft’s licensing terms with OEMs required them to pay MS for every unit sold — even units that did not come with Windows. This meant that if Dell or HP or whoever wanted to offer Linux as an option, they’d still need to pay Microsoft for Windows or else lose the ability to sell Windows at all. It made no sense to offer Linux PCs at that point.
Just one of many many examples of Microsoft’s illegal anti-competitive behaviors.
Groklaw still around? It has tons of anti trust details archived.
It’s still there (apparently archived at Ibiblio) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groklaw -> http://groklaw.net
So what’s the statement here? As long as it doesn’t affect you, you shouldn’t care about how it affects others? That’s kind of a shitty way of thinking.
It’s a joke dude
Now I use linux and I’m still mad at what microsoft is doing!
It’s more complicated than anger for me. There’s the disappointment that they’ve sunk so far, worry that other programs that I use could follow, but also some relief that I switched when I did.
Linux is really just the kernel the OS runs on. What people dislike are some of the stupid choices a distribution’s maintainers make. Like, Ubuntu used to be a great entry-level operating system for people who wanted to get into Linux but didn’t want to ditch all the things they understood from Windows or MacOS. It provided a level of comfort and ease of use. Which is great, and something the Linux community needs. But then Canonical started injecting snap package bloatware with everything and it’s just a mess. You have as little control over snap updates as you do Windows updates unless you completely disable the service, which is hardly trivial for a new user.
I’ve been running Kubuntu for years now; it’s convenient to use for me for professional reasons, but I’ve never used to snap to get new software. I’ve never disabled the the service. Are there flavors of 'Buntu that are “unsnapped”, if you will? I know I should just search for it, but I thought I’d just ask.
It’s called Debian :)
unless you completely disable [snap updates], which is hardly trivial for a new user
Tbh it probably shouldn’t be trivial for new users to disable updates. I’ve seen way too many Windows/macOS users running a years out-of-date version of Chrome.
In Linux you have to do sudo systemctl disable snapd, which produces a warning about snapd.socket. New users sometimes get a little freaked out about disabling stuff in systemd, especially after they find out what systemd is and does and how important it is. They’re afraid of bricking their installation and you have to be like “no, that won’t happen. Yes, I’m sure it won’t happen. No, you don’t need to reboot. Just replace disable with stop in those commands again and it won’t run anymore. Yes, I’m sure it’ll be fine.” So the commands are trivial, but the psychological toll of doing stuff via the command line that you perceive as dangerous, for truly novice Linux users, isn’t to be underestimated.
Did you respond to the right comment? I was trying to say that instructing new/novice users to disable snap updates is probably a bad idea.
I read that as “should be trivial,” not “shouldn’t.” In my defense, I don’t have my glasses on right now. 🤓
I blame the Linux gatekeepers, keeping people on Windows. By pushing out misinformation to Linux newbies who ask a question online, and scaring them away.
There are no Linux gatekeepers. There are assholes everywhere, that’s the human condition. I came across these assholes and I learnt that I should take advice and consider it myself.
If you close your brain and listen to random online people without thought, you’ll have a bad time, Linux or no Linux.
This stereotype of people in Linux or open source as assholes is FUD spread by people who have a vested interest in spreading it.
I’ve found people mostly very helpful and courteous.
idk I think that only the Chosen should be allowed to use Linux
Blessed with the knowledge of r/nofap, he can finally install Linux Mint.
Annointed with the holy kernel, untainted by binary blobs.
holy kernel
not templeos
worshipping false idols now, are we?
Looking forward to see someone creating a TempleOS fork with a Linux Libre kernel in their spare time.
You’re talking about Arch and Gentoo users, aren’t you?
New user: which distro should I use?
Arch users: definitely Arch, it’s so easy and stable!you can’t say that about all of them. it’s just a small fraction
Unfortunately, they are the loud minority and other arch users don’t tell them to spout such nonsense. Recommending the distro to linux newbies is not helpful. The minority will be willing to open a console in order to get stuff done. When I started, all I wanted was it to work and never see a console. Recommendations like gentoo and arch might’ve turned me a way from linux altogether.
i mean tbh ive never had issues with arch i couldnt solve without a quick google(neither has a update ever broken anything) and manjaro sets everything up 4 u
That’s fine for tech literate people willing to spend time on that. But non tech newbies don’t want to open a console. Recommending Arch to them is a shit move.
i feel like using a computer makes you part of the tech people and im sure theres an arch clone out there with a gui for tha aur also typing in like 2 lines aint gonna kill anyone people who google do it on the daily
You also know all of the terminology, what a console is, what you’re searching for when something goes wrong, what sites are likely to have his answers, and how to search for it in a way that works.
Not only misinformation, but straight up condescending unhelpful answers, sometimes.
This made me laugh so hard I down voted five times before I could hit the up vote button
I feel bad for the people who still use windows
I feel bad for people that even spend one moment thinking about what operating system someone else prefers
Does anyone genuinely prefer Windows for a reason that makes sense? Or are they just a captive audience?
This is same as feeling bad for people who think others shouldn’t be getting caught in MLM schemes.
Really. I’ve been watching the shitshow in windows and apple get worse and worse, and am glad for the availability of Linux.
I don’t care what Microsoft does any more it’s their OS. What really grinds my gears is the fact that people are so complacent and just down right fuckin submissive to a corporate entity
I’m a sub
So am I but windows isn’t a good domme
Safety words are ignored as a matter of policy.
It’s the support angle, for me. I seriously don’t have to worry at all whether a piece of software supports Windows or not. And in my special case, my school doesn’t help with troubleshooting unless you’re using Windows or Mac because “of the many variations of Linux,” they said.
But that’s kinda typical of everything, how’s tech support going to help you troubleshoot something that has a million variables? I can fix things, but can the typical user? Definitely not.
ok now listen 😂 the path to maximum joy is twofold:
- make sure you’re very happy
- make sure to be informed about others unhappiness and ridicule it this is another offset that must be maximized
I stopped using Windows over a decade ago and Padme is right. My windows using friends are always mad about some change or another and I’m just chill as a cucumber.
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I feel a sense of ownership over my OS. I tinker, I experiment, I break things and sometimes I fix them.
I still get mad, but it’s our problem. We got here together and I know that we can do better.
Windows feels like renting. The landlord only shows up when I’m not ready, fixes stuff that wasn’t broken, doesn’t fix any of the things that I need fixed, keeps raising the rent and installing hidden cameras. If I want to fix anything, it costs way more, is way harder because the landlord won’t tell me where anything is, gets un-fixed every time the landlord visits, and after all that it’s just fixing someone else’s house.This is the first time I’ve ever wanted a reward system on any social media platform. Sure, I’ve used Steam rewards and such because they’re there. I put emojis on chat messages, etc.
…but this comparison you made is pure gold.
I like that comparison a lot. Thanks for sharing.
I have never heard a more apt description of Windows. You have a way with words.
In my last job I had colleagues using Windows, and they were super chill. When they turned on their computer in the morning, it took 20 minutes to boot, install the latest updates and log on. I had to start working right away, while they were having their third coffee and second cigarette, waiting for their computer to get ready. I’m sure it wasn’t healthy, but relaxing.
did they ever start actually doing anything useful?
between sharepoint and microflop dynamics-CRM, azure and windows (whatever the fuck version)
and mother-fucking oracle, I can often go days after booting up before I can do anything useful.Sometimes I think the only people who can do any work are the procurement team and the only work they can do is issue MS purchase orders.
That sounds like poor IT policies to me. In previous office jobs I’ve had, our computers were configured with our working hours and we wouldn’t shut them down at the end of the day, so that any updates could happen off the clock and minimize that sort of disruption.
Depends on your perspective, I’m sure the guys who got a 30 minute on the clock break weren’t complaining about poor IT policies lol
I’ve done something similar, “Oh shit, gotta take a break boss, computer decided it wanted to update, fuckin windows amirite?”
I’ll get angry again if the ads show up in business licensed copies of Windows since I have to use Windows at work. And at least work won’t make me upgrade from 10 until 2025
As far as I can tell nothing has actually changed. The “recommended” is the same shit as it’s always been, and windows 10 already has that.
the worse windows gets, the funnier it is to me
Is it me, or does this format not make sense for this meme?
I use Mac OSX btw…
😁
osx is the unix equivalent of a tip terminal at a restaurant
Sick burns.
