hi,

pretty much the subject… I am trying to choose my next laptop and I am tempted to buy a framework 13 AMD. I saw this post from one year ago : https://www.phoronix.com/review/framework-13-amd

and while the review is impressive, comments are not. how things have evolved since then? any experience?

EDIT: you convinced me, I just ordered mine. Thanks for the incredible answers !
NEW EDIT: I use arch (btw), and Gnome. For the answers, I do not think this will pose a problem but… what do you think?
(and yes, I ordered mine before reading last comment of paequ2 who doesn’t like it… for reasonable reasons, maybe. I hope I will have more luck ;) )

  • Pope-King Joe@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    I got mine last January and it’s been pretty much flawless on Arch with KDE and Wayland. No regrets whatsoever. Battery life is probably the only weakness, but I also push my stuff hard. Overall, I’m super satisfied with the choice.

  • harsh3466@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Have had one for about three weeks no (13" and), and it’s fabulous. Habent had any issues. Running fedora 41. I love it.

  • priapus@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    2 months ago

    I’ve been using a framework since the first edition they’ve released and it worked great. Theyve only gotten better since.

  • melroy@kbin.melroy.org
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    2 months ago

    YES! Big yes. I have one as well. Very pleased with it. Be very sure you pick the new 2.8k display version. So either pick 7640U - 2.8K Display or 7840U - 2.8K Display. Which works great for Linux, WITHOUT the need of fractional scaling.

    Also be sure to pick the correct + right amount of expansion cards for your needs. 1 USB-C will be used for charging, so just saying.

      • melroy@kbin.melroy.org
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        2 months ago

        Apart from that, everything else should just work fine out of the box under any modern Linux distro most likely. The only downside I had with my Framework 13 laptop is the sound quality, because the speakers are down firing. You might like that or not. But you can definitely live with it.

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        2 months ago

        Hmmm… I’ve been using Bazzite on my FW16 and it’s been running great. They have a distro image specifically built for Framework, and it’s been great in terms of power management.

        I wonder if that stuff is covered in the Bazzite FW installation? Anyone know? I guess I can check…

      • Jumuta@sh.itjust.works
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        2 months ago

        is ppd better than tlp for amd? because I still use tlp for all my devices (intel) and it works really well

    • Preflight_Tomato@lemm.ee
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      2 months ago

      I’ve been stuck deciding between getting the 2.8k screen and upgrading to the larger 16 laptop. I stopped using my desktop last year entirely and so now I’m trying to figure out whether I should go with the larger laptop since it’s the only thing I use now.

      • melroy@kbin.melroy.org
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        2 months ago

        Multiple good reasons actually:

        • 2.8k version, comes with a great 2.8k display. A very high quality screen, high DPI (can be set exactly to factor 2x DPI scaling, so no fraction scaling).
        • The new screen also have improved brightness (higher brightness)
        • The 2.8k version despite the name, also has bigger battery of 61Wh compared to the 55Wh
        • You will also get the 2nd generation webcam module, which not only gives better image during day light, but also in low light conditions
  • rtstragedy [fae/faer, she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    2 months ago

    I ran into some minor issues with mine running Fedora 41, all had workarounds.

    1. Sometimes the ports stop working properly, I have to pull out either the USB-C or USB-A expansion card and plug it back in and its fine. Scared me the first time it happened before and a reboot didn’t fix it.
    2. I ran into full-system stutters that were actually related to PSR. I had to add amdgpu.dcdebug_mask=0x410 (remove the underscore, the word filter got a little overzealous) to my kernel command line since I couldn’t listen to music without stuttering. Fascinating that the display having PSR problems caused audio stutters, but here we are. It’s weird that others aren’t running into this, but whatever. My battery life is worse with it off but at least the computer doesn’t stutter anymore.
    3. Obviously only some of the ports support USB4 so I run USB-C on both back ports and USB-A on both frontlier ports.

    edit: can i just say that there are fewer more negative places than Phoronix comments, in general. I wouldn’t take them too seriously.

  • tath@social.tath.link
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    2 months ago

    I recently picked up a Framework 16 (AMD with GPU to replace an aging gaming laptop used for travel) and love it. Linux (OpenSUSE Tumbleweed) works wonderful. Thinking about picking up the 13 when I need to replace my other laptop when it’s time for that.

  • spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    I can speak to longevity - I have a gen 1, batch 2 (humble brag?) - and absolutely love it. Got me to switch over to linux, and the quality is there. Minor gripe about the trackpad sticking intermittently, and had to have the hinges replaced (both known issues, resolved). 10/10 great laptop

    • paequ2@lemmy.todayEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Minor gripe about the trackpad sticking intermittently

      Aaaah!!! It’s not just me! I used a track pad on another computer and realized the Framework’s stickiness wasn’t just in my head!

      • spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works
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        2 months ago

        Oh dude no, it’s a headache! I wrote to them once and they said it was an issue with the balance plate/sensor.

        Apparently the quick fix is to click the bottom center of the trackpad 5x, then test it (I do so by clicking top corners). I find it hit and miss haha. Going inside, you can adjust the placement of that plate, but I never found that useful.

        Did you notice if it seemed to improve a bit with time?

        • paequ2@lemmy.todayEnglish
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          2 months ago

          Did you notice if it seemed to improve a bit with time?

          Mmm… no. I just more violently drag across the trackpad until it works and then resume what I was doing. 😅

  • PureTryOut@lemmy.kde.social
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    2 months ago

    I have the AMD edition and overall the laptop is nice but since I received the laptop about 9 months ago the screen broke 4 times. I only got it back 2 or so weeks ago from the repaircenter so I have only been able to actually use it for a few weeks. So my experience is pretty terrible so far. I honestly have no faith the screen is durably fixed this time but let’s see, I’m pretty done with it.

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    2 months ago

    I’ve been cheering for Framework more or less since they first started shipping machines. I’m on MacOS and only use Linux on NUC-style machines and VMs, but if I was ever gonna buy a non-Mac laptop, I’d go to them.

  • vga@sopuli.xyz
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    2 months ago

    I’ve been trying to sell mine. Went down to 60% of the original price and no takers.

    Don’t take funny-colored borders or funny keyboards unless you’re 120% sure you don’t want to sell it in half a year.

  • shirro@aussie.zoneEnglish
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    2 months ago

    For people with experience with any mobile 12th gen intel and the framework 13 AMD, can you quantify what you think the upgrade is worth or would it be better to wait for a refresh to the “ai” series if that ever happens.

    I look at the price for board/ram/wifi upgrade and struggle to justify even though I expect the amd cpu to be cooler/quieter and have much better iGPU. I know it should easily outperform the steam deck in raw performance so with some scaling it should be reasonable for some light casual gaming but I don’t have any experience with amd outside of desktop cpus and dedicated graphics. Every time I consider an upgrade it makes more sense to buy desktop upgrades and cope with the intel system for a few more years. I don’t have a good use for the intel mainboard as it doesn’t have much expansion, multiple ssd, pcie etc.