Which is the better option + spinning a vm is possible and ltsc the only issue is I have to repirte a windows license for ltsc(and according to Microsoft ltsc was mostly designed for embedded systems) thanks for any help and I decided to post it on the linux community bcs I couldn’t find a suitable place to post it and this is related to linux but man I love linux tho and if I go with the jumpship method I have to sadly leave some games behind like roblox (it’s fine due to some moderation issues bad games etc etc but ngl its a fun game ik sober exists but i kinda dont wanna use a android emulator to play roblox i could use it since its our only option for linux and also i need to wait some time for my affinity subscription to end orrrr i try running it on bottles/wine again)
Edit: I have delete roblox due to 2 reasons one to ease deleting windows and their management
Edit 2: i might test first If I ever boot into my windows disk to see if I need it anymore
Throwing out another idea: I upgraded an aging laptop and put mint on it and it’s my main right now, but I can get on the newer windows computer if I need to. I rarely need to now, though things will come up and its nice to have an out. Recently it was getting my printer working which I so rarely use. Didn’t have the patience, just needed the doc printed, flipped to windows.
It’s a little sad to me. I watched windows rise to its peak with windows 2000 and slowly fall. Been using it since 3.1, and had dos-only for a little while before that. It’s time to say goodbye. Been on and off with Linux since the early 2000s but this is my first real big push to use it outside of work or projects. Linux has come a long way from those days.
what printer brand your on?
It’s a Canon. If I just sit down for a bit with it I’m sure I can get it working, but sometimes you just want it to work right now.
oh brother people say it works and hp there is a software for it and idk about canon but there is prob no linux support like their cameras.
Cups takes some playing with to get right but once you have it setup and saved, the thing should work whenever
ohh yeah cups i forgot ik its used by the hp software
I chose the dual boot option when I decided to switch a year ago, and I found myself rarely using Windows eventhough it is installed on my laptop. I might have only boot it up 3-4 times since the switch, for GFN not working properly with ALT when running through browser. The dual boot just make my disk partition needlessly complicated, and I’m going to reinstall it yet again, without Windows.
I find my self only using windows for roblox and use affinity for 6 months till March 2025 (and roblox is easy to quit it has some issues with mods and stuff)
I feel you. I installed dual boot and basically just never bothered to boot Windows again because the stuff I need works.
If you have a laptop and a desktop put it on the laptop fully rather than dual boot
Until proton came out I kept dual booting but I always ended up booting into windows because I didn’t know how to do x on Linux
When I just wiped windows completely and put it on my laptop I distro hopped for a bit but never went back
Ended up switching my PC over too after about 6 months and I no longer own any windows machines, nor feel the need to besides the odd firmware upgrade of a peripheral or something
Windows is dropping support for dual boot?
No?
I’d say dual boot. Jumping ship from windows to linux without it is very hard, especially if you enjoy playing a windows-only game or rely on windows-only software. A virtual machine can work for some basic software, but you need to do GPU passt trough to the VM to be able to game at all, which is a… let’s just say not insignificant amount of messing around and configuring stuff.
I disagree with dual booting at the early stages. I like dual booting (or even better a VM if that covers you) once you’ve figured out what works and what doesn’t (assuming something vital is in the “doesn’t” category); but, if you are trying to decide if it is right for you, I don’t think it does you any favors to be able drop back into old habits so easily. My recommendation is drop a bit of money on a second hard drive, pull the windows drive out and install just Linux. See if it works for you, if your “must-haves” are running painlessly or not. You still have the safety net if things go REALLY badly of just popping in the old windows drive and changing your boot options in the BIOS, but you will be less tempted to just boot Windows every time you use the computer - until you really have to.
For a start, in practice you aren’t likely to actually reboot and load into a different OS very often. You can’t really give something new a fair shake while you are still spending most of your time somewhere else. Minor things, like how you like your system to look/work will just push you back to windows because it’s easy and you won’t ever look at the options to find out that it can do what you want (and likely more). Second, there is the pesky windows updates that likes to fuck with the boot loader.
This is really only advice for an enthusiast that really wants to try Linux. I know some will disagree - everyone’s experiences are different, but it is definitely my preferred methodology and helped me make the leap.
I can quit all the windows software it’s not hard for me
I’d still recommend dual booting, just in case…
hm around 24 people recommend to fully delete windows, 8 recommend dualbooting, yeah i counted it.
That’s not a good sample though. This place will shill Linux all day long and are biased in that direction.
I am contemplating the same, but the amount of time I’ll have to put into figure out if I can use my 4060TI with it, or what games I’ll be able to play etc and configure it how I want it is not a small amount of time or research.
ohhh
I wish I could switch to Linux but sadly I can’t (one of the main things I use a computer for won’t work on Linux) so I’ll be using windows 10 beyond eol and forever into the foreseeable future and I don’t see native instruments making a Linux version any time soon. I email them at least once a year asking about it in the hope they one day fucking do it!
Ltsc is possible it is for embedded systems tho
I have no idea what LTSC is but I shall have a bit of a search around after work to see if it is something I can benefit from. Thank you :)
yw but ltsc you can use windows till 2034 or smth
Cool, thank you. I may try a Linux distro again soon and try to get Traktor DJ working but the last time I tried (admittedly quite a few years ago) the audio latency was far too high for DJing with so I had to return to windows.
I am aware of mixxx as a DJ software and I periodically try it out to see how it is advancing (my last try being a few months ago) but it is just not there yet for me. Hopefully one day!
I’ve been a dual / triple / god knows how many OS booted since the 90’s.
Windows has gotten into bad habits lately - it’s not staying in its lane. Meaning it hasn’t respected other boot partitions for a long time, and recently there seems to be a lot of people having problems with windows nuking their linux installs.
My strong recommendation is to buy a second hard drive if you dual boot. Then windows can be “over there” - I’ve never had a problem dedicating ssds to the OS. My second recommendation is to do this now, why wait until you’re forced into something? You’ve got a year to learn Linux and get comfortable with it.
oh yeah speaking of other drives its better since gparted doesnt let you merge it somtimes into one linux disk causing you to reinstall
Jump ship. If you can make do without windows, do so. It takes away so much of the frustration, and you just learn to let it go when devs won’t make linux-compatible binaries: after all, it’s basically them telling you they need to be able to spy on you, so why use their app?
You should set up dual boot now so you don’t get surprised by differences when support ends and you feel the need to switch to an ltsc sku or use Linux.
Don’t wait, prepare!
Keep a hold of windows for a little while so that if something critical comes up that you can’t figure out you have a fallback.
ok prob 4-months/1 year i will keep a hold of windows
A good project between now and then is to investigate the iot sku. It has everything “unnecessary” cut out because it’s intended to be installed on refrigerators and has a much longer support window (2032?) for the same reason.
the iot sku would be helpful on those edge cases i needed to use windows
The alternative route I took is maintaining a mac computer for when I need to “be normal”.
was my idea but macs are quite expensive
Maybe not as expensive as you think. The classic getting into the mac game choice is the 2012 mbp 12”, which can run a supported macos with opencore legacy patcher and costs <$200 with 16gb ram and an ssd.
The next best starter option is probably to make the big long leap to a first gen m1 air which can be had for ~$400 if you keep your eyes open.
Those are both expensive to me lol, but not the multiple thousands for a new computer.
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Support should be in quotation marks. Yes it has security support but applications will stop supporting all windows 10 SKUs long before that
The longer you wait, the more distros we’ll have to argue about when you ask for suggestions
should I completely jumpship to linux when windows 10 ends support
Nah, there’s no need to wait.
I’d recommend dual booting right now so you can transition over a longer period. Also make sure your chosen distro supports dual-boot. Technically any distro can dual-boot but if it doesn’t support dual-boot you’ll have to put in some extra effort to make sure both can boot safely and easily.
need it for some apps but its possible i can switch on march 2025 a whole few months before windows 10 ends support
Doo Eeeet, Doo EEeet Now!!!
Seriously though, I vote VM under linux. Spin it up for whatever you need, use it less and less, no regrets…
As long as you have your windows license key you can change your mind later so really you can do whatever. I’d recommend giving 100% linux a try if that seems fun. Obviously you’re gonna want to back up any interesting files that you have on windows either way.
full linux right?
My experience : jump ships. Dual-boot is unpractical. I dual-booted my PC at first, but that makes you remain on what’s comfortable, and that’s windows. Swallow the hard pill and leave windows behind. If you’re already working mostly with OSS software (surf with Firefox, use LibreOffice, etc) than it’s not that hard.
I had a dual boot machine for a year or so when i first used linux. Never actually went into windows the whole time
I used to use softwares like libreoffice,firefox and photopea when i was on windows anyways so yh.
I decided i want affinity got the 6 month trial found out its quite useless but not bad, photopeas can do 90% of it.
No better way to learn and get used to it than ripping off the bandage and being forced to deal with it. That’s what I did. Been Windows-free for ten years. If you still have a Windows partition around, it may be too tempting to just go back to it when things get a bit hairy.
As far as games, yeah, it sucks that I can’t play some games, but I’ve filled that time with more productive hobbies. I can program C and C++ now, self taught on Linux.
But the more people that jump ship, the more developers will target Linux, so it’s just a matter of time now before you can play anything again. It’s definitely a 1000x better environment now than when I switched back then.
if you only play mostly indie,singleplayer they should work fine in my opinion and apps find the alterntives?
