And here I thought it was “butt first”.

I didn’t downvote you originally, despite this obvious lie at the end “you hit a button and it’s installed.” - just pointing out that you are exactly who the meme is about, lol.

Vague complaints about compatibility issues that don’t hold much water (and unable or unwilling to share any details); vaguely complicated solutions, presented as if they are dangerous, from “untrustworthy” sources; and finally claiming windows doesn’t have any of that (bet you have no similar concerns about using regedit… and you only follow the advice of official Microsoft Tech Support, right?).

I think you guys have hit the nail on the head. So much of the Linux argument has nothing to do with Linux and everything to do with what people already know.

Everyone forgets the bugs and crashes they’ve always had to deal with even exist, because they become background noise. Then they change to a new OS and might run into completely new “roadblocks” and cry about how broken and useless the OS is even though their new problems are just as minor (or more so) than the problems they left behind.

In reality, any OS is a complicated piece of kit. The more you do with it, the more likely you are going to run into something that does something you don’t expect - and the more tech literate you believe yourself to be, the more likely you think the OS doing something you don’t expect means it is broken.

You sound like the exact person this meme is about… Having installed both windows and Linux each several times in the last 5 years, the process has been significantly easier for Linux every time.

I really can’t answer that either I’m afraid, as I’m using one of the “gaming distros” (Garuda Linux) and just haven’t had anything but good luck with it really. I tried Bazzite on my laptop, but was having some nvidia driver issues and decided to try Garuda before diving into trying to fix it and, well, Garuda “just worked”. The last general use distro I used was Manjaro probably 5ish years ago and I hated it, had nothing but troubles (and have since learned that Manjaro is kind of notorious for falling apart).

you have to change the init configurations for every single game you download (even if it’s just for enabling gamemode)

I haven’t had to do this for a single game I’ve played. Am I lucky? What does “gamemode” do? (Am I missing out on something?)

The worst I’ve had to do to get a game to work was change to “Proton Experimental” in the compat settings for one game that had basically just launched. (I also remember the EA launcher being terrible when I played “It Takes Two” with my partner, but I don’t remember what was terrible about it and also remember them having problems on Windows so I don’t know if it should count or not, lol). My partner is still using Windows, and we game together a lot, and honestly I think they have games crash far more often than I do. Games take longer to launch for me though - “Processing Vulkan Shaders” takes up to a minute or two if it is the first launch since boot of a larger game. No idea what happens if I skip it, so I don’t.

It’s honestly been such a breath of fresh air, I am so grateful for the talented people making this shit work so well, especially in the last several years.

That “about” page is fucking wild. They spend like half the page sucking themselves off over how great of a job they did designing their own logo, and then the other half telling the user the proper way to reference the company and its products. I really want to spend some time on the live chat breaking all the rules, like not capitalizing every letter of their name…

I mean, Grandma ain’t cleaning up the myriad of shit windows leaves clogging drives either… I see the real problem is going to be the average $12/hr geek squad agent isn’t going to be able to fix it for Grandma no matter how eager she is to pay $199.

That’s wild. What peripherals are you using that don’t work in Linux?

I personally love Alexandrite.app as a UX. I’m so used to it that I get confused when I follow a link and see a default Lemmy instance, lol.

My laptop has a 3050 in it running Garuda Linux under Wayland and its been working well without any fuss. I tried bazzite but the drivers put me on the struggle bus… It never would leave “hybrid mode” and trying to play a game just wouldn’t touch the dgpu so performance would be igpu trash mode.

I’d love to know what is different between garuda and bazzite to try to get bazzite to work as I did really like it, but it eluded me. I guess my point is that you might have better luck trying a different distro unfortunately. It feels like there are enough variables that what works for me may not for you and vice versa.

Welcome! So happy to see new converts, and even more when they have an “it went well” story!

Absolutely wild. Pretending to faint because a company sells hardware running on Linux? I feel like most of us want to be able to buy more computers that don’t just automatically come with Windows… That person sucks.

I agree. I don’t think I’ve ever actually received or witnessed the hate that the memes espouse as the norm in the Linux community. I’ve seen some “oh really, I had trouble with that so I use blank instead” or maybe even “you should try blank” (mostly when people ask though). I think most of us are too busy hating Windows to really truly hate other linux distros. We have our favorites and we will happily share that with anyone that asks, and many that don’t.

I’ve tried to stop talking about it all the time to friends and family as I don’t want to scare them off, but I am just using it everyday in front of them and showing them that I don’t have infinitely more problems than they do… Hoping it just seeps in via osmosis and at some point one too many “hey, you should buy a new computer, windows 10 is going end of life soon you know” pop-ups will set off that magical chain reaction.

I’ve been using that for ages to share my screen, but it doesn’t bring over the audio which can be annoying, but otherwise works great. I am sure there are ways to get the audio into it, but it felt like it would be more trouble than it was worth.

ITT - “I DISAGREE WITH THE FACTUAL ACCURACY OF THE SETUP AND/OR PUNCHLINE OF YOUR JOKE.”

Wait, what happened to Ondsel? I’ve been using it for the last several months as it just seemed to make more sense than FreeCAD did…

Are you saying my dick is broken and not the brothel? Ruh Roh.

The reason end of support keeps getting brought up is because the only remaining supported version is currently in a trash state and officially doesn’t support a LOT of hardware still in use.

Windows 7 was still supported for 5 years after 10 came out. Windows 8 didn’t go end of support until last year, 8 years after 10 launched. And keeping in mind that you could have upgraded a machine originally on xp to windows 10, it is hard to not feel like they are doing the entire industry dirty killing support just 4 years after the new os launched, while they are still bogging it down with newer and shittier features like its in beta or something.

Nah, I’m not trying to give any commentary on Lemmy or Linux in this thread. I’m just talking about how poorly the analogy is lining up for the intended purpose. Honestly, Lemmy shouldn’t be pushing any one thing in general, imo.

I do get confused about the people that show up in Linux specific communities and get mad about “all the Linux fanatics”, and maybe the original analogy would work for that.