So true. But this is (usually) more like sibling rivalry instead of actual disrespect. It is kinda fun if you’re in the mood to poke at your peers.
I had to ditch my girlfriend because she became an arch elitist. Debian ftw.
I’m using debian btw
I’ve been rolling Debian more and more this year. If you’ve got solid Linux chops, it’s really great.
I also really like LMDE, it’s what I run on my Business laptop.
Manjaro and Debian
I’ve gone with PopOs. Ubuntu based so well supported. They’ve been around for a while now so they won’t disappear over night. Gaming just works.
I was on Nobara for a while and really liked it. but while glorious eggroll is the goat, I don’t want to put my DE in the hands of a single person.
Since swapping the I’ve experienced one game crashing freeze (which I hope was a one off), and when screen sharing BG3 over discord it slows the game down to a crawl. But I blame discord for this one, as its fine when streaming from OBS.
I have zorin and mint dual booting on my surface book.
really liking zorin, very pleasing to look at, simple, haven’t run into any software I had on windows that I can’t run here. I don’t game on, could still be a slight negative, but so far I love it.
This is great. Just to let you know, whatever decision you make is wrong. Cheers!
Why?
Because there’s always going to be someone who says the distro you liked the most is not the distro you should be using. (I use Arch btw)
Arch is unstable and time-consuming to maintain, and should never be reasonably used as anything but upstream for something usable, you’re wrong!
Jk, you do you :)
The only people who hate Linux users more than windows and Mac users are Linux users who think you chose the wrong distro
I’ve always felt good about using Ubuntu and derivatives. I get their opinions and they have some good points, but I’m not sure why I’d let that change my flow.
Because Ubuntu sucks! 👎 Here’s a list of why:
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Snaps = 👹
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Ads in start menu (they did this before Winblows!)
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Unity is sooo fucking slow and stupid. That dumbass bar of most used apps always present taking up screen space 🙉
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Canonical doesn’t give a shit what users want🖕
But the most important part is that I really don’t care. I don’t use your computer. You do. So use whatever the 🔥hell🔥 you want. Use a version of Winblows 🪟 themed to look like Arch 🤭, wallpaper and all👌, then post screenshots on the Internet about your superiority 💪.
Live how you want! And if someone shames you for it, kick them out of you life 😎
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Still works though!
Someone should do this meme with the Fediverse
What do you mean?
Well you know, the commie instances, the nazi instances, the cp instances
My favorite (not): The instances who find it more crucial to defederate from Threads than pedo and neonazi instances…
redditlemmy moment
The what?
Club Penguin
The… CorPorate… instances…?
Which software
@dch82 Mastodon. I’m using it right now. I reply to you from Mastodon.
For many people, it’s an additional learning curve to think of Lemmy, Mastodon, mbin, etc as the same network
Is it really a choice?
TEMPLEOS
Hannah Montana FTW
RebeccaBlackOS > Hannah Montana Linux
It’s Saturday not Friday
Does that mean you don’t have to get down to the bus stop?
Possibly a perfect use of this.
So going off the chalice in the movie, the distro that will save you from judgment is the plainest one – the one with the least bloat? That tracks.
BTW…
Also kudos to you for your modding last couple days.
So… Slackware?
Is this going to be Arch or Debian?
Debian.
More like Alpine or something else without systemd. I mean no shade (well, a bit of shade) since I’ve got Fedora myself. Alpine doesn’t even have glibc IIRC.
Can you explain why everyone hates systemd
I started and still work in rhel
I think it is breaking the Unix philosophy, it is an enormous piece of code that does so many different things. My ideal is smaller components with smaller dependencies. When distros or software becomes inextricably dependent on systemd they are then beholden to whichever direction the maintainers take it.
My take on it is somewhat based on “what if.” Other people have some pragmatic discussions on security aspects if you search around.
I’m not a systemd guru, but I do find it relatively easy to work with.
I’ve noticed that a lot of it is actually made up of separate binaries and daemons. Is it wrong or misleading to think of systemd as a collection of utilities that share a common DSL as opposed to a strict monolith?
In 2024, having systemd is less complicated than not having it.
That’s just what I was going to say - that will either be Arch or Debian…
“the cup of a
carpentercoder”
I recently installed Manjaro. It works for my games right now
I highly recommend avoiding manjaro like the plague, their team is incredibly incompetent (see: https://manjarno.pages.dev/ ), I say this as someone who has given people manjaro for years and regretted it, I was also their it person, manjaro regularly broke every few months and gave people a very bad taste of linux
for example, why are kernels given version numbers in packages? This caused 3 separate peoples computers to break multiple times. Everything good about manjaro comes from arch, everything bad about manjaro comes from the manjaro team.
Y’know how it’s not rolling release because they delay packages by 2 weeks? They actually do no testing in this time. How do I know this? They pushed an update that caused steam to uninstall your desktop environment. Famously covered by linus tech tips… this is something that should have easily been caught, and yet the two week window did absolutely nothing.
the truth is for manjaro there is no real usecase, there’s no set of desires that align with manjaro being the best choice for you. I am not asking you to switch away from manjaro, but I do not think we should ever recommend it to anyone, and on your next machine, I recommend trying the arch installer.
But if what you’re looking for is an easy pre-setup arch, use endeavoros
If you want something simple and up to date, use fedora kinoite
If you’re a power user and want to configure every little thing about their system, use arch or nixos
If you don’t care at all about updates and want the most rock solid system possible, debian.
I hear you. I was looking more for Arch with less of a hassle. Something similar to my Steamdeck. I guess I should just wipe this weekend for something else. I really want something for playing my steam and GOG games that works with my Nvidia 3080.
Luckily for me I keep every game installed on different Steam Libraries so wiping my install drive to put something else in isn’t difficult.
What about arch is it that you want?
I do a ton of distro research because I try to convert people to linux a lot so I might be able to help you with that.
https://bazzite.gg/ this is probably what you want, make sure to install the nvidia version.
If openSUSE Slowroll wasn’t experimental I’d recommend it in place of Manjaro. It’s a rolling release with monthly releases.
I really like Tumbleweed. Sure it updates a lot, but it doesn’t force updates so you can take it at your own pace.
SUSE’s Open Build Service absolutely rules, too. I use Fedora personally, but would switch to Tumbleweed any day. I’ve gone back and forth, eventually settling on Fedora only because of familiarity with Red Hat.
There are things I miss, big one being Zypper. It’s slow as balls but it’s usability and ability to dig through packages is unmatched, in my opinion.
Linux is Linux.
We should send all those people, pages and guides suggesting distros to hell.
And then instead we suggest update-schemes (fixed, rolling, slow-roll), package managers and Desktop environments. People with enough brain cells to start a computer are then absolutely able to chose a distro fitting them based on that. Everything else coming with a distro is just themeing/branding anyway…
(and just for the use statistic: Archlinux, Opensuse (Leap and Kalpa), Debian here…)
I don’t care in the slightest which package manager or UI or if releases are rolling or rocking.
What I care about is usability and ease if use, so I went with the best one, Linux Mint!
😁
I’m ready for the feature triangle
There’s a lot of advantages that simply come with using a more popular distribution. For one, having a larger pool of package maintainers (and therefore more packages) is pretty important. Have you ever tried using NixOS as a daily driver? I did a few years ago. Very annoying having to create my own packages for so many different (and relatively common) things I wanted to use.
Sorry, I’m Plan 9 all the way
Did first 8 plans fail?Very interesting thing. Linux Namespaces were inspired by it.
It’s from outer space
SteamOS.
That’s Arch BTW
It’s Arch-based, but if
distro = base
then
Mint = Ubuntu
Ubuntu = Debian
Mint = Debian
Nixos 💀
Go on…
Just setup Mint last night and have been troubleshooting how to get everything to work. So far I’m liking it. Last thing I setup was Lutris for gaming so that’s nice.
Which edition of Mint?
Nooooooo
Cinnamon
I’m pretty sure the question was more about linux mint (ubuntu/default) vs. linux mint debian edition, as those can confidently be called different distros. Don’t worry about it though, the issues with ubuntu are actually very small, they’re just infinitely magnified on the internet by people who care a lot about the smallest things. There are also many advantages to using ubuntu or an ubuntu derivative. Also this question can be interpreted very humorously, so maybe do that if you like.
Ah I assume Ubuntu based since I just downloaded the latest from the mint website. Still learning about Linux so not 100% sure.
If you just went with the most prominent and easily accessible download button it’ll probably be ubuntu, but as i said, despite what some might say that’s not necessarily a bad thing
If he got the cinnamon version, that is indeed the default Ubuntu based one. I use the same thing.
One of the biggest draws of regular Mint IMO is that it leverages the advantages and resources of Ubuntu but it removes the parts that many people don’t like.
Fedora Workstation 40.
On windows until last year, after trying 11 on my T440s which made it unbearably slow so had to start over but instead of going back to 10 tried a bunch of distros.
Fedora stuck, mainly because of gnome vanilla (I really like the paradigm, don’t care about deep personalisation) and how everything just worked great.
Fight me?
Nah, Fedora is a valid choice, just like Ubuntu is. Both are great if you don’t care that much about personalization and just want a solid distro to get work done.
Fedora is pretty much the new Ubuntu more or less. Ubuntu has gone so far downhill that I can’t recommend it to anyone and that’s been the case for quite a while.