That’s what you people would do, but my glorious group would be much more enlightened!

That’s when the deep philosophical questions are asked.

Well, she is named after a Bavarian food staple

That sounds strange, because they just filter out and don’t add anything. What does give me headache though are glasses that are too small for me. Maybe your glasses are just a bit too small and the increased pressure triggers the migraine?

Maybe fumes from solvents in the room?

Same for me. I can’t even tell you why I find it fascinating, but I do find it fascinating.

Not universally incorrect. There seem to be regional differences. In Germany it is: use the arm on the side you want to turn to.

Thanks for explaining your reasoning, I see it different than you.

Especially your comment regarding the LLM is where our beliefs differ: an LLM is the software plus the hardware, so in my opinion for sure if there ever is a “real” conscious AI, we know what it is made out of and that it’s the collection of programs that run on the hardware (we might never understand why that lead to consciousness, but it isn’t more than what was put in). So whatever that AI is, is defined by those two things. Same as we humans are defined by our nerve system and brain. Take parts of it away and it changes the whole (=brain damage, trauma, drugs, etc.).

Especially drugs and their influence on our minds are a big reason why I’m strongly in the “it’s all physical” camp. Taking drugs changes the minds of people while those drugs are in the system. That people feel their thinking change, is proof for me, that it’s all physical, since it can be influenced by physical means, e.g. drugs.

Now we both stated our beliefs, but I don’t think we will get a real answer in the close future and I don’t think we will convince the other person, so thanks again for explaining your reasoning.

What is the reasoning that you believe that your consciousness can’t arise out of physical matter?

Oh for sure, that might be the case. But everything already written in some holy book or told in some ritual now definitely lacked those sophisticated machines, making all their content moot and you can safely disregard them.

So due to the lack of any information, you can’t prepare and therefore can’t expect anything. So it’s better to be good for its own sake, then trying to appease some bronze/iron age divinity.

You know, it’s almost like politics affects everything. Strange thing that.

I don’t want to debate politics everytime myself, but the fact stays that at the end of the day, everything is political

Every fairy tale with a good king/queen/princess/prince?

Or One Thousand and One Nights has the king killing his wifes left and right, but by the end it’s alright, because he really loves his current wife now…

Since you are asking for cautionary tales, The Fisherman and his Wife might a better fit. Just be glad of what you have and don’t strive for advancing.