I bought a laptop yesterday, it came pre-installed with Windows 11. I hate win 11 so I switched it down to Windows 10, but then started considering using Linux for total control over the laptop, but here’s the thing: I keep seeing memes about how complicated or fucky wucky Linux is to install and run. I love the idea of open source software and an operating system without any of the bullshit that comes with Windows, but most of the open source stuff I have is on my android and fairly easy to install. Installing and using Linux just feels like it’ll be a whole different beast that’ll eat up most of my time and I’m kind of intimidated by it.

TL;DR Linux scawy, how does a barely computer literate scrub like me who’s used nothing but windows since the dawn of their life get started with Linux?

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      Fedora’s installer can be confusing for new users and you need to know some technical terms (3rd party repos, Flathub etc) to set it up

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    You don’t have to install Linux if you are not ready for it. You can test it without installing by using Linux live distributions. With Ventoy you can have 10 or 20 different Linux distributions on one USB stick and test them to see how well your laptop works with it and which flavors you would prefer.

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      Note that what you will experience is just the Desktop, as the details of the distributions are more “which one has less errors over time and not outdated or unstable packages”?

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    You are not “barely computer literate”. Most people have no idea how to put a OS installer on a flash drive and boot from it. If you know how to format your laptop and reinstall Windows, you know how to install Linux. Install any beginner distro (Ubuntu, Linux Mint, etc) and have fun. Google is your friend if you find any issues. There are a lot of resources online to help you.

    If you want to play games or use any specific Windows-only software you may have to do some research, but if just for browsing the web you will most probably have a good time. Don’t be afraid to try and learn.

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    Installing linux is actually very easy and painless depending on your distro choice. What do you need your computer to do? Your choice of distro would depend on the answer to that question so we cant advise any further.

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    Try Linux Mint. You set it up on a USB drive, and you can try using it before you install it. So load it up, and try doing a few things you’d normally do (check email, etc.). This way, you can get your feet wet without committing fully. If you find you like it, you can do an installation (and it doesn’t require any fancy terminal stuff).

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    Well, looks like you know how to format a PC. Then you already did 90% of the dirty work of installing and using a Linux.

    Choose a friendly-linux distro and you’ll be fine. I suggest you to try Arch (I’m joking!) Linux Mint, Fedora, PopOS or Zorin OS.

    I think PopOs would be really easy!

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      I really like System76s work so even though never used PopOS it is very likely fine.

      But Zorin, hell no. It is a randomly patched outdated GNOME and their installer is Buggy.

      Just use Fedora with Dash to panel and you have a better experience.

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    For me to give better recommendations or help than what other people are saying, I’d need more info, I can help you here, but id rather help you on a chat app, I’m available on matrix, signal and discord.

    The extra info I’d need is stuff like whats the model of your PC, what do you use it for, what are your preferences, ect.

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    It does not matter much which distro you choose, as long as you choose a bigger distro. They are all well supported linux systems. Use a live USB. You do not have to install it, you can plug it in and use it. Or, install via a virtual machine.

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    Did you install Windows 10 yourself from scratch? If you managed to do that you should be able to handle most Linux installs as well. I would go so far to say that generally Linux is easier to install than Windows nowadays. Go with Mint or OpenSUSE or Ubuntu and you should be all right.

    If you have nvidia graphics that might give you trouble in the form of one extra package to install. If you have Intel or AMD graphics you shouldn’t expect any trouble at all.

    The biggest difference between Windows and Linux is that you generally don’t download apps and drivers from websites but use your package manager to install stuff. Similar to app stores on smartphones. And unless it’s nvidia all drivers are already built in.

    You can download live Linux images that boot directly from USB to try them out without installing. Often the live image is the same one you can then use to install Linux, if you want to.

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      Linux is easier to install than Windows nowadays.

      This.

      Go with Mint or OpenSUSE or Ubuntu

      Not this. Mint maybe, even though their Desktop looks dated and is not Wayland ready. But OpenSUSE is strange (what to use, Leap? Good luck with outdated packages; Tumbleweed? Well you are now rolling) and Ubuntu is basically dead.

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        Ubuntu is basically dead

        It’s dead for hardcore nerds that care about such things as snaps and such. But in the corporate world, it’s very much alive. I literally just got done installing an Ubuntu-based NVR from Wisenet for a store’s CCTV system.

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      Mint

      I definitely found Linux Mint the easiest version to switch to, coming from Windows. All the menus and icons were basically where I expected to find them. I couldn’t have cared less about Wayland support, I just wanted to do basic tasks and for my printer to work, and Mint did that out of the box.

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    Hello and welcome to the club! It depends on your skill level. For some it can be very difficult an OS, Linux or no.

    I’d recommend practicing on a VM first to verify your technical chops.

    Step 1: Download virtualbox and create a new Linux virtual machine with 30 GB of disk space.
    Step 2: Download a Linux ISO and mount it in the VM.
    Step 3: Maximize the VM window and install Linux.
    Step 4: Play around with your new Linux installation as though it were your real OS.

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      This will be the closest to bare metal install when compared to running it from USB. USB live tend to feel laggy, because of the bus, but in a VM, it’s just like bare metal (almost) minus the “going all our” part.

      Try many different distros and DEs before you make your choice.

      Try atomic distros too, they may or may not be your cup of tea.

      Go crazy on a VM. If you don’t like it, nuke it, try again with something else.

      The only problem is the insane amount of options, which is also what makes this so much fun.

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    Don’t install on your main rig over your main hard drive. Don’t obliterate your windows drive, that will ease a lot of the intimidation, knowing you can always go back. Getting a cheep laptop or thin client to try distros out on will elevate that intimidation as well.

    Start with what you have heard of and have been recommended repeatedly, Mint, popOS, Ubuntu, all great distros to learn on, have great documentation.

    Also, read the docs. They are dry and long, but will always have the solution.

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      In my experience it being easy to just switch back to Windows wasn’t always a good thing. When there was an issue or I had something new to learn sometimes I would just take the easier option of switching out the Linux drive for the Windows one, even though I really wanted to stop using Windows.

      Not saying OP should go cold turkey, but something perhaps worth considering at some point.

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    Distro choice doesn’t matter. Alternately, just use Debian.

    It’s hard to use a different computer and nothing will make that easier. If you’ve ever been plopped down in front of a Mac you probably already know this.

    Pay attention during the install process and ask questions when you don’t understand something. Don’t be afraid to bail out if you’re worried about messing something up. Make a backup so you can’t lose anything when you do mess something up.

    Dual booting is what you’ll do to start with, but windows updates tend to break the system that allows you to choose Linux or windows at boot time. The first time it happens you’ll have to figure out a way to fix it.

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      just use Debian.

      If you only get your stuff from homebrew, Distrobox of Flatpak, yes.

      Debian has severely outdated packages, like 2 years old on Bookworm. I would never recommend anyone to run outdated software.

      Not every software vendor publishes LTS releases. Firefox, Thunderbird all fine. But the rest is randomly frozen, and this will result in unfixed errors for years.

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        I get what you’re saying, but that’s bad advice for a new user. They’re already gonna be having to relearn how the computer works and how to fix stuff that breaks/make it do what they want.

        It’s more important to have a broadly supported and used system with ample documentation in that situation than it is to have the most recent packages.

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          It is important that you get fixes to packages that occured in the last like 2 years.

          It is generally not really nice to run outdated software, even though it works kinda well.

          If you use Debian you really need to use Flatpaks, and Mozillas PPA for regular Firefox. Then yes, probably a good OS.

          I started on MX Linux because some strange Distrowatch bump. My IT support told me my Nextcloud version was outdated, and I didnt know Flatpak back then.

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            I agree that some stuff has gotta stay up to date, I guess I see that more as part of learning how the system works and how to break it/weld shit onto it problem instead of starting from a rolling release.

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              Dont know if I understood that sentence.

              Testing packages is fine. But randomly stopping updates from upstream maintainers makes no sense. If you develop the software you can freeze packages. Or if upstream has dedicated LTS/ESR variants. But not if you dont.

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    In my opinion the hardest thing in linux is leave to use propietary or exclusive software for windows, the first think you must do is leave to use propietary software in windows, and when you can live without windows exclusive programs, switch to linux. You can start for ubuntu or other linux friendly distribution, doesn’t care, afther the migration you can try other for curiosity without risk

  • 𝕾𝖕𝖎𝖈𝖞 𝕿𝖚𝖓𝖆@lemmy.world
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    Mint and Kubuntu are great for newbies. Ubuntu is also great, but the community hates Ubuntu these days so be ready to get replies criticizing Ubuntu or your choice to use it. It still makes a lot of shit really easy.