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Honestly KDE Plasma is pretty good for ne as it is. Sure a few settings here and there but not like with custom styles and scripts and such, so far
That’s the thing people don’t understand about ricing. It’s not about features, not even about functionality. It’s about aesthetics. Visually, but also how components interact and UX in general. It’s like making art. It’s emotional.
Maybe comparable to fancy mechanical keyboards. Am I more productive with mine? No, I could have grabbed any decent keyboard and it would have been the same. However, I like how mine looks, sounds, feels. It makes me happy. It is art I have created.
And that’s why customize your system. Not because it’s more efficient etc. Because it makes me feel goos like listening to music.
I’ve been using the same Arch/KDE box at work for the past 5 years. All default/stock. I have 1 system related issue every couple of months, usually a known issue i can quickly find the solution to. My “maintenance” routine is to update packages once per week. The less customization you do, the less obscure issues you will come across. Life is good.
Is no one going to comment on the racial slur that is “ricing”?
It is important to understand the context of a word. Many words and phrases have racist origins, including many words you likely use without knowing. Meanings change, and that’s not a bad thing. If people hurt by the term pushed for it to stop being used, I would of course respect this. I have never seen who could be targeted with the term be offended by its usage in the Linux community.
Currently, the majority of people who talk about Linux customization call it “ricing”, and none of them are doing it with ill intent. Look at the replies to your comment, most of them didn’t even know this until you brought it up. What is the point in holding onto the negative history of a word that is no longer used in that way?
You’ll have to excuse my ignorance, I’ve been a petrolhead all my life and the only context I’ve ever heard it used is to derogatorily describe modified Japanese cars. The people on the receiving end definitely took offense to it, because that was the intention.
please take your racism elsewhere, sir
Exactly!
Dude what??
The person you replied to isn’t entirely wrong, though.
“ricing” was a term in use in the car modding scene around the 80s and 90s especially, where among certain groups it was popular to modify Japanese import cars with kits and decals etc to mimic the look of the Japanese racing scene.
Some people considered these mods to be tacky and worthless because they usually tended to focus more on aesthetics than performance, purely tricking the car up visually with no other changes. Due to the Asian origin of these mods and the stereotype that Asians eat a lot.of rice, the cars were insultingly dubbed “rice burners” or " ricers" and the process of doing it “ricing”
It was intended 100% as an insult, basically meaning “Your car looks like shit because of all that Asian stuff you put on it”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice_burner
Like many insults of course, the insult is often “reclaimed” by the group it targets, who begin to use it between themselves in a favourable way, without any insult or negative connotation.
Ricing in the context of computers where people are styling, theming and “tricking out” their desktop almost certainly was borrowed from the car scene.
By this point there is basically no negative intent around the term at all, and especially not racist, but the place the term came from was.
Ignore the braindead replies, this was really informative.
using linux is a slur now
Yes that’s definitely what I meant 🙄
my friend’s dad’s brother uses arch
What what?
ricing was a pejorative word that used to describe what people did to japanese & korean cars; but it’s stopped carrying that connotation in a similar manner to the words picnic and thanksgiving.
it’s like the words picnic and thanksgiving in their american-specific contexts: with both words no longer carry the connotation that implies lynching black people or giving thanks to god for genociding native americans; the present day version of both of these words, along with ricing, is neutral now.
It just seems like it could have very easily been replaced with “customization” without the conflict.
it should have, but it wasn’t and now it’s part of modern pop culture lexicon and i’m 100% onboard with divorcing words from thier ugly, painful history.
for me; it’s like owning the word “queer”
We don’t consider it to be neutral, and we remove posts that use the term. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice_burner
never heard that one before
The thing about picnics having their origin in lynchings is a myth.
I used to spend hours creating custom color schemes for my Plasma setup and installed a bunch of icons themes. Now I switch out my wallpaper every so often and let the highlight color auto-pull from the image.
More customization = Higher chance something breaks.
Admittedly, chances are it’s just something minor like your icons looking weird or transparency breaking, and it’s not like it happens very often. However I have had it happen while I’m trying to focus on something and it’s definitely an annoyance I could do without.
I like that I can customize on the off chance that I need to fuck with something. But defaults have been getting better and better so i’ve done it less and less.
At this point, most people are happy with Plasma, Cinnamon, or GNOME (whether that’s 2 or 3) and the default customization options.
I use Fluxbox and Conky and I love it, but it’s not for everyone. There’s no way my wife would enjoy the tinkering that I sometimes have to do to get a new Conky config to work properly, so she’s good with Cinnamon.
Yeah, nowdays DEs embedded customisation options cover so must of their default user-base needs that they are basically fully automatic rice cookers.
And that is how open sauce works, it develops over time according to needs, not based on boardroom needs, monetization-focused panel research, and constant UI changes just for the sake of it.
And there are still the basically provided options for even any deep ricing needs if you want to do so.
I have a custom theme for Cinnamon/GTK… But they recently updated it and the new default theme doesn’t actually look that bad… But using the default theme will make me a sheep. ;_;
When I’m bored, I change how my Plasma looks. Happens once in a while. I would not complain if it ever turns into a “choose global theme | apply global theme” workflow tho.
I mean, it is basically there, except you need to download and apply Kvantum themes.
When I first started out, I used to customize my system constantly. Then I switched to KDE Plasma, and aside from a few minor configs, I’m completely satisfied with Breeze.
I pretty much just want a functioning vanilla Gnome desktop, remap caps lock to control, and I’m happy.
Not trying to yuck your yum, but what benefit for caps lock remap. Do you use caps lock that often?
Many people do. I’ve remapped caps lock as escape because I am a shitty vim user who trys to solve all problems by smashing that motherfucker into itself. I noticed my left pinky was getting unhappy with me, so I tried using caps lock for esc instead and haven’t gone back.
A key dedicated to SCREAMING just isn’t that useful IMO.
I think they are saying the other way around, their caps lock activates Ctrl. I have mine set up as a left hand backspace. KDE has a number of built in options for this where you just need to tick a box to activate it. I miss it a lot on my work PC (windows)
If someone has a script to set up HyprLand or Sway with all the necessary components and dotfiles I’m all ears because I just don’t have the patience to experiment myself so I’m still on GNOME.
Cosmic is really great if you want tiling similar to Hyprland or Sway without so much work. I used i3 then Hyprland for years, but have now been using Cosmic for months. Its the only DE that correctly does a tiling workflow imo, even considering extensions.
The problems with preconfigured configs is that they often aren’t very dynamic, as in they don’t adapt well to other PCs. Many of them will use stuff like CSS for widgets and bars that have stuff like specific pixel sizes, meaning you’ll often gave to make changes.
Hyprland has some premade configurations on their wiki if you’d like to try them. I’ve never tried one, if you do, let me know how it goes!
Another thing to remember is a lot of the stuff you take for granted in a DE don’t exist in a WM. Things like autostarts, envvars, background services, etc don’t work the same. Hyprland devs created UWSM which will help with all of this.
JaKooLit has a hyprland script for most distros. If you want to use sway just install from your package manager not much else you need to do. If you wanna use proprietary nvidia drivers with sway you have to install sway-nvidia as well
i tend to want to customize a lil bit to my tastes, but not much.
linux ui is already good nowadays.
I own a computer to get computer things done, not pretend I’m a hacker from the Matrix. KDE Plasma is pretty much already set up to do exactly that. Only thing I do is switch it to the Breeze dark theme.
dark mode gnome is starting to look less than ideal to me these days. I’m currently on Pop! and it seems like most of the momentum is going toward COSMIC but I’m not sure that’s what I want anyway. I’ve installed a bunch of extensions and tweaks to get the system looking somewhat how I want, but the DE still looks clumsy to me. I guess what I might be saying is that I should try KDE? not sure.