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      I’d argue that Apple hardware is their greatest strength. It’s just hard to see that when their anti-consumer behavior and proprietary software gets in the way. If their laptops were able to run fully on free software without compromise, I’d have no problem buying their stuff.

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          Linux, they want to be able to put Linux on it without sacrificing any performance or battery life. You can put Linux on it (Asahi Linux) but it will likely never be as performant and efficient as macOS solely because the teams at apple work incredibly well together, they know the system inside and out, they know what its capable of running at and how far it can be pushed or how much can be placed on the efficiency cores etc.

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                  They could be more like AMD in that regard, to answer your question:

                  Direct contributions to Linux kernel: AMD contributes directly to the Linux kernel, providing open-source drivers like amdgpu, which supports a wide range of AMD graphics cards.
                  
                  Mesa 3D Graphics Library: AMD supports the Mesa project, which implements open-source graphics drivers, including those for AMD GPUs, enhancing performance and compatibility with OpenGL and Vulkan APIs.
                  
                  AMDVLK and RADV Vulkan drivers: AMD has released AMDVLK, their official open-source Vulkan driver. In addition to this, there's also RADV, an independent Mesa-based Vulkan driver for AMD GPUs.
                  
                  Open Source Firmware: AMD has released open-source firmware for some of their GPUs, enabling better integration and functionality with the Linux kernel.
                  
                  ROCm (Radeon Open Compute): An open-source platform providing GPU support for compute-oriented tasks, including machine learning and high-performance computing, compatible with AMD GPUs.
                  
                  AMDGPU-PRO Driver: While primarily a proprietary driver, AMDGPU-PRO includes an open-source component that can be used independently, offering compatibility and performance for professional and gaming use.
                  
                  X.Org Driver (xf86-video-amdgpu): An open-source X.Org driver for AMD graphics cards, providing support for 2D graphics, video acceleration, and display features.
                  
                  GPUOpen: A collection of tools, libraries, and SDKs for game developers and other professionals to optimize the performance of AMD GPUs in various applications, many of which are open source.
                  
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            That and many pieces of open-source software are only available for Windows and Linux (and maybe FreeBSD). It’s not uncommon for developers to not want to pay the Apple Tax to port their app across, and it’s also not uncommon for Apple users to pay for proprietary apps that have open-source equivalents on other OSes.

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      There are many qualms to have with it as an OS

      • It demands both a dock and a title bar, a huge waste of vertical space on screens that are vertically limited

      • There’s no way of globally enabling hidden files and folders (you can do it for finder through the terminal, but can’t do it for the file picker windows)

      • It doesn’t support multi-stream transport, so despite being al labour simplicity you cannot display more than two display port screens over a thunderbolt connection, whereas windows can do 4.

      • It doesn’t support sub pixel rendering, making text look blurry AF on 1080p and any other screens that aren’t super high res

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    Everytime I see this meme it annoys me. Mac is FAR WORSE than Windows, and why Windows has gotten more shit overtime is in large part because they’re trying to get a piece of Apples Pie

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      macOS is far from perfect, yes. But at least it’s useable. Windows is a shit hole in comparison. Hasn’t been great since 7. Windows’ only redeeming qualities are window management and the vast software library that dates back to the dawn of time itself.

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        MacOS is terrible, it can’t render text on 1080p screens, it can’t output to more than one monitor over thunderbolt, it demands a dock and title bar, taking up limited vertical space.

        Windows does everything MacOS does but better and without being a patronizing locked down poc. I mean try and enable seeing hidden files globally, impossible.

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          I’ve never had issues with text on 1080p screens. Yes, macOS scaling isn’t great, unless you happen to have the right resolution but in my experience, it’s fine on 1080p.

          The Video Output isn‘t a macOS limitation but a hardware limitation of the base M chips. Some macs can output more than one monitor over TB. It’s stupid, yes. But not macOS.

          And the dock happens to be hideable and moveable. Windows 10 cannot do the latter anymore…

          Windows on the other hand is an amalgamation of at least 4 different UI styles and so much bloat that it hurts. Microsoft constantly gets on your nerves to please please please use edge and bing, the search function is less useful than just searching everything manually and Windows update is as annoying as ever.

          And that’s if you don’t get a slew of random problems and bugs. A little while ago, Windows 11 stopped registering keyboard inputs in UWP apps for me, so I couldn’t use search at all (and a number of other things), at least not without using the on screen keyboard. I even reinstalled the OS and it worked fine for a week or so until it broke again. At some point I couldn’t even log in because I had to reset my password and the log in screen for the Microsoft account also didn’t accept keyboard inputs. And of course there was no way of opening the on screen keyboard either.

          And that’s just one of the many issues I’ve had with windows. It just randomly breaks far too often, which is why I‘ve uninstalled it from my PC.

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            I’ve never had issues with text on 1080p screens. Yes, macOS scaling isn’t great, unless you happen to have the right resolution but in my experience, it’s fine on 1080p.

            It objectively is not. Look up sub-pixel rendering / try using a Windows laptop then switch back. Blurry AF all because Apple decided that once they switched to high res screens everyone should throw out their 1080p ones.

            The Video Output isn‘t a macOS limitation but a hardware limitation of the base M chips. Some macs can output more than one monitor over TB. It’s stupid, yes. But not macOS.

            No. I did not bring up the absurd one monitor limitation of the m series chips. I brought up multi thread transport, the display port feature that lets windows laptops output 4 monitors over one thunderbolt connection but MacOS is limited to two, even on M Pro and Intel chips.

            And the dock happens to be hideable and moveable. Windows 10 cannot do the latter anymore…

            The dock is hideable and moveable because it’s fucking useless. Want to know what Windows you have open? Go fuck yourself we’ll just show you what programs you have running. Wanna know what Windows is on which monitor? MacOS again says go fuck yourself, no possible way of telling you that information. Oh and MacOS will demand a title bar from every single window too cause there’s so much vertical space to go around!

            Literally just turn your windows update cadence down to stable and you’ll avoid those issues, though quite frankly I’ve had more issue with MacOS updates breaking everything. Hell at least Windows tries to maintain backwards compatibility unlike Apple that considers anything more than 4 years old to be trash that should be thrown out or it will make them puke.

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              Let‘s just say, we use computers in different ways and thus expect different things from our operating systems. I cannot use windows for more than web browsing without wanting to punch my monitor and you might feel the same about macOS. I prefer a coherent design language over decades of backwards compatibility, etc. Both have their merits and neither is perfect. There’s a reason they both exist.

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                I cannot use windows for more than web browsing

                What more do you use your operating system for? Like 99% of personal apps are web apps, and like 80% of business apps are. I mean most of what I use an OS for is managing my open application windows, and MacOS’ dock / titlebar business make that objectively more difficult than Windows or most Linux distros.

                I understand we may use them differently, but since I’m forced to use a Macbook for work, I’m genuinely curious about how people are using it without being frustrated to all hell. Or is it just that you haven’t tried to use Windows since the Vista days?

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                  I use a lot of software like the Adobe suite, office, scanning, managing and editing photos or my (linux based) server, etc.

                  macOS vastly superior search is worth a lot to me. So are built in features like bulk renaming files, merging pdfs and a fast built in pdf viewer, that isn’t a browser. I‘m also a huge fan of the stacks feature to keep my desktop tidy, something I never manage to do on windows. Also quick look is very neat, especially if you work with lots of images, videos or documents.

                  I also prefer Apple‘s office suite to Microsoft Office by a long shot. (Speaking of vertical space. MS Office takes up a lot through the ribbon bar). It’s not as feature rich but has anything I could need and is much cleaner and less bloated.

                  And for managing open programs: I just don’t. If I want a program to be closed I close it manually (cmd+Q), otherwise I just leave it open (the program, not the program window), especially for programs I use a lot. macOS is very good at RAM management, in my experience and the new window opening immediately is great.

                  Also, I prefer my programs running in full screen, especially on my macbook, and macOS easy gesture based navigation to switch between virtual desktops and to launch mission control to switch between apps quick and fluidly are great. Even works with my logitech mx master mouse. And with third party apps like magnet, there’s even window snapping.

                  The titlebar doesn’t bother me. If I need the space, I just go to fullscreen. Mostly I don’t because I have a rather large monitor and even on my MacBook screen it’s not that huge. It’s like a third of the thickness of the windows start menu and programs don’t need their own menu bar because it’s global.

                  And I’ve actually used windows a lot, even recently. I‘ve just this month finally replaced it with linux on my gaming PC. I miss the Windows 7 era because it was still bloat free, coherent, and a desktop OS through and through. Windows 8 was a joke and Windows 10 (which I downgraded to again, after 11 was even buggier) is fine in comparison but full of ads and Microsofts overemphasis on telemetry and pushing features and programs no one – or at least I don’t want (cortana, co-pilot, bing, edge, one drive, office 365, that weird weather/news widget in the task bar, etc.). They don’t even allow you to use a local account anymore, unless you use a workaround in terminal. Dealing with audio devices is a mess, double so, if you throw bluetooth into the mix. I’ve already mentioned the keyboard input problem in 11. For some reason, games tend to minimize from time to time, a few minutes after launching, … The list goes on. Even small things like windows not being able to correctly use MB and MiB, which got defined by the IEC decades ago and is used correctly by any other noteworthy OS, get on my nerves.

                  macOS and windows have wildly different philosophies and well, if you’re used to one it’s not that easy to switch. But also, Windows’ shortcomings, combined with my own curiosity and knack for tinkering with PCs) drove me towards macOS, years ago, since I started using it on a hackintosh, that, in my memory, ran more stable and faster than Windows on the same machine… it was just a bit too much hassle to keep updated.

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      I find Mac to be much better than Windows in my two main use cases:

      • My work laptop. It’s a unix-like OS that I can use as an SSH terminal to my Linux dev box without having to setup any other dependencies. Since I do all of my development in (neo)vim and just otherwise need a browser and container runtime, there’s less that I have to be bothered with. This is particularly a boon to me as I haven’t used anything but Linux on my personal machines in over a decade now.

      • My wife’s work machine. Windows updates are complete and total garbage. It’s quite apparent that they don’t care about outages and end-user impacts. After a particularly terrible update Tuesday, she had a remote session with a client and none of her software or hardware performed as it had just the day before. Replaced with a MacMini and there have been 0 problems since. I don’t like the walled garden approach but, for work machines, it’s a lot better than the MS approach.

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    I just hate myself: I‘m using a Linux Workstation with Job specific Windows VMs. Sometimes I even WOL my Workstation, connect my MacBook via VNC and look up stuff in Windows…

    macOS/Linux pretty much feels the same. Windows constantly bothered me with issues…

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    You can be certain those Mac users are doing the same since they don’t want to be associated with you nerds.