Greetings, I am asking whether Linux has helped your family or not going from Windows to a friendly distribution that caters to young or elderly.

How was your experience with helping relatives or your kids with Linux? Was it because of an older spec machine? Costs etc?

I helped get my grandmother (dad’s side) to move from windows 8.1 to Linux Mint which so far has been good, she only really browses and required some basic budgeting apps.

This was on something like an older core i3 or i5 but I didn’t hear that many problems apart from getting drivers for her Epson printer to work.

So how has it been for you?

  • umami_wasabi@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    Not successful. They don’t even try to understand why I use a “non-standard” OS like a “unicorn” trying to be “unique,” let alone try it.

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    6 months ago

    My wife is still on Windows on her own laptop. But for watching TV, she has been using Linux successfully with an appropriate GUI (vdr, mythtv, Kodi, Androidtv…) for 15 years or so :)

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    6 months ago

    I can’t imagine switching everyone in my family to Linux. I think it’d be too much to support lol.

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      6 months ago

      For me it was the opposite. Windows required too much support. It didn’t do what they wanted it to do and bad updates inevitably caused problems. With Solus Linux everything became easier for them.

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    6 months ago

    Not Linux but MacOSX.

    They all know how to operate their iPhones, which we got them because it was like their iPad; it’s easy troubleshooting: how would you do this on your phone? Well, it’s exactly the same here.

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    6 months ago

    Both parents are on openSUSE KDE. They only use the web browser and printer, so it pretty much doesn’t matter what UI they use, but it really helped with their acceptance that KDE not only works similar to Windows, it was a clear upgrade from Windows 7, with it looking more modern and being a lot faster.

    I also like openSUSE for this, because YaST allows me to administer their PC without cracking out the terminal for everything. It just gives them at least a tiny bit of hope that they might be able to do this themselves. And my brother, who’s not a Linux person, has managed to fix things via YaST without my help.

    Ultimately, though, I use openSUSE KDE myself, and that’s really important.
    If my parents mildly complain about something, I can proactively offer to change that, because I know all the settings of KDE and YaST.
    Or if I don’t know whether there’s a setting, I can go digging for it on my system.

    But perhaps most importantly: “This Linux thing isn’t working.” – “Hmm, it’s working on my system, so there’s gotta be a way to fix it.”
    That immediately shuts down any negativity, so I can concentrate on fixing it, rather than deflecting their grumbling.

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    6 months ago

    My mom got my XPS9350 i used to bring to uni, and at the moment, it has Fedora in it.

    She repeatedly claimed it was a lot more straightforward for her to understand, compared to the endless inconsistencies and issues on Windows. All things considered, she is fairly tech illiterate too.

    Plus it’s easy for me to remote into, in case something breaks

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    6 months ago

    For me the most important thing was to use Threema/Signal instead of Whatsapp in the family groups so I’m trying not to pressure everyone to jump on the Linux boat.

    I converted my fiancé’s MacBook Pro to Linux, but she’s always using her company Thinkpad which has to be on Windows.

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    6 months ago

    My parents moved to Linux on their own accord: Dad just wanted something that stays the same, and doesn’t try to exploit him, so he’s been a happy Debian & XFCE user for about a decade now; Mom never used Windows, so she’s happy with Debian & GNOME I was a Debian user (and developer) back when they switched to Linux, and Debian is where they stayed. Dad’s in IT, so he can manage both systems fine, most of the time. I need to unfuck it from time to time, when Dad decides it is a good idea to try and install the latest LibreOffice Ubuntu arm64 .deb package on his x86_64 Debian oldstable, throwing whatever --force flags at dpkg he can find, but other than that, they have everything they need, are happy with their choices, and need very little support from me.

    In my own household, Linux is the only system to begin with (apart from a handful of Android phones we all hate, and an XBox, which is slowly getting replaced by a Linux mini PC). I’ve been a Linux user since late 1996, and I purposefully only bought hardware that works decently with Linux, so setting up scanners, printers and the like are a breeze.

    Wife saw my setup, how I operate it mostly with the keyboard (she hates the mouse more than I do!), wanted the same, so I built her something similar (NixOS + Wayland + niri + firefox + geary). She never had her own computer before, but did use Windows at work from time to time. She didn’t want to use it on her laptop, though. She wanted something tailor built for her, for her very reluctant computer-usage. So Linux it is! She doesn’t hate it, which is the best I can accomplish with anything computer-related when it comes to her. I’m maintaining her laptop, but that too, requires little work. I just update it from time to time. She’s loving that she can send a print job from her laptop, from the living room, to the printer in my work room.

    Kids played with both the xbox, and the gaming mini pc I built, and much prefer the latter, because it is easier to navigate, it is faster (using cheaper hardware), it is more stable, so when they’re old enough to get their own computers, they want Linux too, and I shall abide. Luckily, while schools around here are rather windows-oriented, they have to accommodate Linux users too, so the kids will be more than fine with their Linux computers, even for school tasks. Whether they’ll end up maintaining their computers or not remains to be seen. If they want to, I’ll teach them how to.

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    I’ve been running Linux on my laptop for a few years now (started with Mint, on Manjaro now). I have our HTPC set up with Mint, and the family is good with it. When my kids are old enough for their own, I’ll probably keep them going with Mint as well, we’ll see.

    My wife’s laptop still has Windows, but I’ll likely move her over if she gets a new PC at some point.

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    6 months ago

    My niece, my mom, and my cousin are using Linux because I gave them my old laptops with Debian in it. They don’t know how to do anything with the system (not even update it, I do it for them), but they know how to use a browser, or launch a game. Works fine for them like that.

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      6 months ago

      At this point you could have moved them to Mint LMDE, which has GUI tools to to pretty much anything, and it is essentially Debian with Cinnamon and some extra tools built by the Mint team

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    6 months ago

    My kids only knew Linux from the first day they used a computer.

    They didn’t have any difficulty transitioning between that at home and the chromebooks or windows desktops the school had.

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    6 months ago

    I tried it once and got ignored like a beggar trying to talk with randoms on the street.

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    My kids have never known anything other than Linux. They had to build their own PCs at 6 years old (under my supervision, of course) and they both originally chose Zorin OS at first. Today my daughter is 11 and runs Kinoite on her PC, and Novara on the laptop she uses for school. My son is 9 and wants to move to PopOS (still on Zorin).

    My wife was the hardest sell because she was fully intertwined in Microsoft’s BS. So I built her a Nextcloud server, set her up with Fedora Workstation on her PC (her laptop is still on Windows, but she barely uses it now), and she has never complained once. As a matter of fact, she moved from her PC to her laptop last week to complete some work because she had to be out of the house, and came back telling me that she could not stand Windows anymore, so she didn’t get any work done. Unfortunately, for the local tax entity she needs Excel (ridiculous), so she wants me to spin her up a Windows VM in the same server where she has NC so that she can move her laptop to Fedora as well.

    So, yeah, my whole house is Linux run exclusively now.

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      6 months ago

      Our family runs Debian + gnome on all our desktop clients. The kids love minecraft and java version works perfect for their needs. Wife needs Libreoffice, Brave and printing.

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    I threw my brother and my dad into EndeavourOS and Garuda respectively. So far, they are swimming. My brother even does almost all his gaming on Linux.

    (Well OK, apart from my dad generally yelling at everything tech. I guess that’s where I got it from.)

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      Haha, dunno about Garuda, but EndeavourOS is a tad difficult if you never used any Linux based distro before ! Granted it’s easier to setup and maintain than Arch, but still…

      This reminds me of how in the past the swimming instructor just throw you in the pool even If you can’t swim… Some learned the hard way others were traumatized for life.

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    We used Linux a long time ago so it’s not that big of a deal. Linux made the throw away computer that I had (486) usable. We could not afford newer hardware, so my mom and siblings got used to the “penguin.” That was when I was in middle school.

    So I have always been able to just use older hardware that I know works with Linux.

    When my father was getting older and I was early in my career, I thanked him by building for him a new computer, a dual core i3 with 8GB of RAM. I put Kubuntu on it, but it was still in the KDE 4.x days and it ended up being unusable. Somehow he always found a way to crash the panel, or drag things to make the panel unusable. It was the worst thing ever, and I had to switch him from KDE because even when I locked the plasmoids in place, he would find a way to inadvertently drag something wrong and make it unusable. I ended up being tech support for him and it was as bad as fixing malware Windows ME installs back at the turn of the century. Even after KDE 5.x it was the devil and so I stopped supporting it and moved to something simpler.

    I installed Xubuntu and later Ubuntu MATE and both were fine for him for the few years before he faded.

    The kids have grown up on Gnome on Debian and understand it well. The only extension is Caffeine. It’s very simple and consistent and clean. Having the super key as a consistent way to get around is convenient for them. They started with Bam Bam and then moved to Tux Paint and GCompris. Now they are getting older and play Steam games. They have never used a Windows or Mac. They started with buster.

    I put my mom on Fedora Silverblue for her touchscreen laptop because the out of box Pinyin support was great and works everywhere (such a chore to set up in Debian). She also has an iPhone and that is what she uses mostly. I also put my youngest son on Silverblue because of the Pinyin support.

    My wife uses Pop!_OS because she likes tiling and hates dark mode that everything has trended towards. But Pop!_OS finds unique ways to break itself on updates and I’m finding I need to intervene more often than I like, so we are exploring a shift to Debian and a tiling plugin maybe next year when Trixie comes out with the newest Gnome.