I don’t understand what this topic is about…
It is about adding a new desktop environment, named Cosmic https://system76.com/cosmic/, to Fedora as an official supported spin/variant.
I’d be down to clown with a rust-based de.
I was playing with COSMIC on Fedora since mid-May, or around 3 months before the first alpha. It’s been pretty solid for me though there are still bugs and missing features. I see why they’d want it for F42, but I’m just not sure if System76 can have Epoch 1 released in time for that. They still have Alpha 5 by the end of December, Alpha 6 planned for the end of January, and maybe 2 or 3 betas before release. So We could only have Epoch 1 (first full release) End of March (or even later), which I’d say would leave too little time for extensive testing to meet Fedora’s standards. Just because I’ve barely had issues on my fairly standard setup doesn’t mean that others haven’t been plagued by issues. So my take on it is I want it to happen, but I’m not sure if it can happen for F42, so maybe the contingency plan to delay to F43 might be a better idea, but ultimately only time will tell.
There would be no reason to delay anything regardless of it being beta or not. Fedora is always doing rolling release updates of software that lends well to that paradigm, and COSMIC is one of those. It’s not like GNOME or KDE where you have to carefully and meticulously manage 100 system libraries used by the whole ecosystem. System dependencies in the COSMIC ecosystem are virtually non-existent. If they really wanted to, they could just wait a few weeks to release the spin. But I don’t think there’s any reason to.
The main reason is Fedora has standards for some stability that COSMIC simply can’t meet on time.
That would be completely wrong. See the Fedora Miracle Spin, for example. The project (
miracle-wm) is still a work in progress, and yet Fedora already officially offers a Spin for it. What you’re describing would only be true if Fedora was switching to COSMIC as the official desktop for Fedora.Regardless, the maintainers doing the Spin proposal have said they will only release the spin when COSMIC gets a full release. And COSMIC is very much Alpha quality software still.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FedoraCOSMIC
They expect it to “reach maturity” so likely when Beta 1 is released at the earliest.
Edit: I would expect the timeline to look as follows:
End of Jan: Alpha 5
End of Feb: Alpha 6
End of Mar: Alpha 7 or Beta 1
End of Apr: Beta 1 or Beta 2
End of May: Beta 2 or Beta 3 or Release
End of Jun: Beta 3 or Release
End of Jul: Release Epoch 1 or Alpha 1 for Epoch 2 (seeing as they said they want to release Epoch 2 in the same year i.e this year)
Alpha 5 is actually releasing next week. I’d also disagree with “very alpha” as most of the beta milestone is finished now. Regardless, I don’t understand where the disconnect is. A spin can release at any time. Doesn’t matter when COSMIC Epoch 1 releases.
Universal Blue already beat y’all to it.
Their ISOs are uninstallable. I wanted to test it, will need to to a #silverblue install and rebase… which #uBlue doesnt document ANYWHERE
Yeah, I should have mentioned that it’s not production ready or released to the public. They’re quietly building it on whatever schedule they have so that when Cosmic is complete, they’ll already have something to offer everyone.
ETA: I just happened to discover it when I was poking around their GitHub repositories. It’s not documented for a reason 😅
I tried the ublue image, when it wasnt under the ublue name yet. Worked pretty great, I will test the current state soon!
I love how much the community has embraced Atomic. Bazzite is making a huge splash.
Ah, this is so cool. I have been absolutely loving Aurora. Maybe I can make a check point and rebase to this to try it out.
